Jovan Vladimir monastery in Elbasan: Serbian monastery in center of albania

[epirot]

I saw this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Vladimir

then i saw this :


For those who can read Greek (twistedmind???) there is a reference to a name supposedly Greek Γεωργίου και Ιωάννου Κρουνιτς των λεγόμενων ΚΟΡΩΝΑ. Well the phrase in Greek does not make much sense, besides that the Serbian name Krunic was greekified to ΚΡΟΥΝΙΤΣ and then KORONA (smth sounding close to Krunic).

Could it be that those ppl were once Serbs and gradually started to albanify or greekify ? (as the case with those two brothers).

BTW the original book was printed in Venice in 1690.

Cases like this might prove that even under Bulgarian empire and before the Serbian domination of the balkans the local slavic lords of Albania, Epiros, WERE STILL SERBIAN, maybe that is why a great vast number of toponyms before the start of the official Serbian rule (1200+) were sounding more Serbian than any other slavic language.

Anyway, this text of Cosmas, for the ones who will read the wiki, is full of contradictions. I don't know, i just wanted to make some knowlegdeable Serbs aware of this.

[Novi Pazar]

Brate, from the sources l have read, the Old Mijaci tribe once inhabited Elbasan, they were consequently Albanianised during the Ottomans. A part of them fled and settled in Western Fyrom! A good case study to understand the Albanisation process of Serbs in Albania and Kosovo/Metohija/Nth-West Fyrom are the Goranci/Torbesh. Serbs getting islamified then later losing national consciousness by marrying Shqiptar women, later all you have is a Slavic surname!

PS The northern Albanians are old montenegrins, hands down!

[Arbërori]

Brate, from the sources l have read, the Old Mijaci tribe once inhabited Elbasan, they were consequently Albanianised during the Ottomans. A part of them fled and settled in Western Fyrom! A good case study to understand the Albanisation process of Serbs in Albania and Kosovo/Metohija/Nth-West Fyrom are the Goranci/Torbesh. Serbs getting islamified then later losing national consciousness by marrying Shqiptar women, later all you have is a Slavic surname!

PS The northern Albanians are old montenegrins, hands down!

... You're a sad, paranoid human being with no goals in his life whatsoever. Albanians won't cease existing my friend, I would rather worry about Serbia's old population & it's constantly dropping birthrates.

And no, we're not ''old montenegrins'', the Montenegrins are the ones Slavicized.

P.S epirot, what is your intention with this thread?

[Novi Pazar]

Paranoid? Serbia's dropping birthrates? Is this what the topic is about? Obviously your void to answer my post so its some typical Shqiptarian garble, right?

[Arbërori]

Paranoid? Serbia's dropping birthrates? Is this what the topic is about? Obviously your void to answer my post so its some typical Shqiptarian garble, right?

No, I acknowledge Slavic presence in Albania, big deal, it's you who can't accept the majority Albanian one in Kosovo.

[Novi Pazar]

No, I acknowledge Slavic presence in Albania, big deal, it's you who can't accept the majority Albanian one in Kosovo.

I acknowledge TRUTH not lies, why can't you?

[Crn Volk]

... You're a sad, paranoid human being with no goals in his life whatsoever. Albanians won't cease existing my friend, I would rather worry about Serbia's old population & it's constantly dropping birthrates.

And no, we're not ''old montenegrins'', the Montenegrins are the ones Slavicized.

P.S epirot, what is your intention with this thread?

Population of Albania = 2.8mil
Population of Kosovo = 1.7mil

You biggest issue is emigration. What good is it to produce more offspring for the labour requirements of western nations??

[Arbërori]

I acknowledge TRUTH not lies, why can't you?

Why can't you? Give it a rest already, Aussie.

[Arbërori]

Population of Albania = 2.8mil
Population of Kosovo = 1.7mil

You biggest issue is emigration. What good is it to produce more offspring for the labour requirements of western nations??

Says another Aussie?

[Crn Volk]

Says another Aussie?

One Aussie to another....Od koj grad si?