Feminism - your views

[Loki]

There is a good/necessary form of feminism (such as one would expect in oppressive societies such as Iran), and then there are crazy excesses, trying to undermine traditional family roles and make women into men - as well as "castrating" men to act like little poodles. Like, the kind of feminism we see in Sweden. It's no wonder the kind of women who these days champion feminism in Europe look like butch lesbians.

[Aunt Hilda]

Actually I've started ti think that feminism indeed is too much influenced by lesbians recently. WTF gays have to do with women rights? I don't get it.

The only connection I see is that the same ideology and epithets that are used against the lgbt are also used to subjugate women

[Hess]

I've taken the liberty of compiling a few choice quotes from prominent, mainstream leaders within the Feminist movement-


"The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon

“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism.” - Catharine A. MacKinnon

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." Catherine MacKinnon

"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin

"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys

[Aunt Hilda]

I've taken the liberty of compiling a few choice quotes from prominent, mainstream leaders within the Feminist movement-


"The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon

“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism.” - Catharine A. MacKinnon

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." Catherine MacKinnon

"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin

"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys

DEATH TO THE MALE PATRIARCHY, DEATH TO MEN AND CAPITALISM

I'm gonna go burn my bra

[member]

The only connection I see is that the same ideology and epithets that are used against the lgbt are also used to subjugate women

Like what?

[Hess]

And before I forget, here is the priceless passage from chapter 12 of the Feminine Mystique where Betty Friedan, arguably the most prominent postmodern Feminist, likens the average American household to a "comfortable concentration camp"

"All this seems terribly remote from the easy life of the American suburban housewife. But is her house in reality a comfortable concentration camp? Have not women who live in the image of the feminine mystique trapped themselves within the narrow walls of their homes? They have learned to ‘adjust’ to their biological role. They have become dependent, passive, childlike; they have given up their adult frame of reference to live at the lower human level of food and things. The work they do does not require adult capabilities; it is endless, monotonous, unrewarding. American women are not, of course, being readied for mass extermination, but they are suffering a slow death of mind and spirit."

[Aunt Hilda]

Like what?

When somebody insults a gay guy the usually call them a girl or a fag, feminists find this to be problematic since femininity is used as something demeaning and therefore anti-woman or whatever.
Take america as an example, the biggest opponents of gay rights are also the ones who opposed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, which is supposed to combat the gender wealth gap

[Empecinado]

I do support equal rights for men and women, but feminism also means positive discrimination, discriminatory laws against man, subsidies to feminist associations and I'm against all this shit.

Is a totalitarian ideology as the Communism is, and is about inventing a invisible enemy (The Patriarchy) to blame it for all, and to pit women against men to weaken society and thus make it more manageable and easy to control.

[Lorene]

Like, the kind of feminism we see in Sweden.

lol you have a lot of false sterotype of swedes, they aren't a socialist land, neither a women role country. It is a male dominated country as any western 'democracy'.

as for feminism, human_master suited it fine!

[Graham]

Wondered what feminist views on military conscription are.