Israel's Netanyahu apologizes to Turkey for Mavi Marmara

[Yalquzaq]

Might be connected to Iranian issue. Specially since Obama is in Israel now and this decision seems to have been influenced by him.

What exactly makes Israel preferable to Iran?

For one, they are not really a regional threat to Turkey unlike Iran. Turkey and Iran can never be cooperating nations, they have opposite interests and the recent events in Syria showed it once again.

[Baluarte]

Is it now official?

Turkey, Israel and USA are friends now? How sweet.

Partizan? What's your opinion on this. Forget about the fact that I predicted this long time ago, just answer.

That would be like trying to hide from the sun just using your hand....

I was checking what was Washington's reaction on this, and...surprise, surprise:

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Obama welcomes call between Israel, Turkey, says restoration of relations needed for peace


JERUSALEM - President Barack Obama says he welcomes a telephone call Friday between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Turkey and Israel were once close allies, but relations have unraveled, exacerbated in 2010 by a deadly Israeli raid on a Turkish ship that tried to break Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.

Last year, Erdogan accused Israel's leaders of trying to eliminate the Palestinian population in Gaza. And the Turkish leader recently compared Zionism to Fascism at a U.N. meeting, prompting U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry to object and say the remark complicated Mideast peace efforts.

Obama says it's important the two nations restore good relations so they can co-operate on regional security. The call comes on the final day of Obama's trip to Israel.
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If the true AtlantoZionist axis is too hard to comprehend for users here...I have images that even children could get:





And another exercise in logic: If A = B, and B = C, then A = C

[Hayalet]

For one, they are not really a regional threat to Turkey unlike Iran. Turkey and Iran can never be cooperating nations, they have opposite interests and the recent events in Syria showed it once again.

I disagree, Turkey has no business meddling in the Syrian civil war. And I never said Turkey and Iran should be partners, only that Israel isn't any better than Iran.

[Yalquzaq]

I disagree, Turkey has no business meddling in the Syrian civil war. And I never said Turkey and Iran should be partners, only that Israel isn't any better than Iran.

I agree with that, I was not saying that Turkey should meddle in Syria, but to point out the opposite policy and interests between Turkey and Iran. Syria is just one of them.

I didn't imply it either, I just mentioned it within the context by myself.

I disagree, like said Israel is not a threat to Turkey's security, Iran is (a country known to have actively supported Pkk terrorists for years, and maybe still is the case). There are many reasons for why Israel is indeed preferable over Iran. I don't see any real obstacle for partnership between Turkey and Israel.

[Hayalet]

I disagree, like said Israel is not a threat to Turkey's security, Iran is (a country known to have actively supported Pkk terrorists for years, and maybe still is the case). There are many reasons for why Israel is indeed preferable over Iran.

Iran supported PKK for a time, but struggled against Kurdish separatism (PJAK) herself at other times. While Israel actively supported Kurds in northern Iraq. So looks to me like Iran and Israel are essentially similar in this respect.

[Yalquzaq]

Iran actively supported terrorists, giving them shelter within Iranian territory (and most likely also supplied arms), like said this may be still the case. I'm not sure if the claims over Israel's alleged support for Kurds in northern Iraq is well-grounded, neverthless its scale seems rather insignificant.

Moreover, besides Iran's actual support to terrorists, they consider Turkey as one of targets for their missile strikes in the event of a USA strike on Iran (wether they could or would carry out these threats is another thing).

[Hayalet]

Moreover, besides Iran's actual support to terrorists, they consider Turkey as one of targets for their missile strikes in the event of a USA strike on Iran

To my knowledge, they said if the USA strikes Iran from Turkey, they would in turn strike Turkey. And that just about makes perfect sense, to be honest. That statement was a bit redundant, if anything.

[Baluarte]

Iran actively supported terrorists, giving them shelter within Iranian territority (and most likely also supplied arms), like said this may be still the case. I'm not sure if the claims over Israel's alleged support for Kurds in northern Iraq is well-grounded, neverthless its scale seems rather insignificant.

Moreover, besides Iran's actual support to terrorists, they consider Turkey as one of targets for their missile strikes in the event of a USA strike on Iran (wether they could or would carry out these threats is another thing).

Iran is a wise country actively opposing AtlantoZionism.

The fact they are so cautious regarding Turkey shows they do know who is the true master of the Ottomans.

[Partizan]

Well, at first to me Iran and Israel are equally hostile. Iran; officially supported PKK, occupies Azerbaijani Turkish lands, wants to expand influence zone to Azerbaijan, even sends agents to Turkey etc.

On the other hand, Israel? Separate from killing our civilians, Israel is as Kurdophile as Iran, separating Iran, Iraq and Syria to several regions including Kurdish one had always been a plan of Zionists. Of course if you separate all, then it will influence Turkey's Kurds. Moreover, Mossad is probably responsible for murder of several Turkish intellectuals, e.g. Uğur Mumcu.

The evil triangle:

Is it now official?

Turkey, Israel and USA are friends now? How sweet.

Partizan? What's your opinion on this. Forget about the fact that I predicted this long time ago, just answer.

The USA never wants to lose Turkey, who wants to lose touchstone of the Eurasia and even Afroasia? So probably the US convinced Israel for warming the relations up. I dislike today's government but they acted smart by using SCO card against EU and NATO, also being a bit warmer to Russia and China about trade and such things, just for having a card against the West. Of course since our prime minister and his cabinet are not nationalists or even patriots, they can never think about a foreign policy which works in favor of Turkish people, despite having some useful steps.

[Grenzland]

The USA never wants to lose Turkey, who wants to lose touchstone of the Eurasia and even Afroasia? So probably the US convinced Israel for warming the relations up. I dislike today's government but they acted smart by using SCO card against EU and NATO, also being a bit warmer to Russia and China about trade and such things, just for having a card against the West. Of course since our prime minister and his cabinet are not nationalists or even patriots, they can never think about a foreign policy which works in favor of Turkish people, despite having some useful steps.

So you think Turkey is still anti-Western and I think Turkey becomes a puppet. Why do we differ so hard?