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    Then my theory was true, the Ashkenazi are mestizos of Palestinians + German/Slavs.

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Then my theory was true, the Ashkenazi are mestizos of Palestinians + German/Slavs.
    That's like saying you're mestizos of Basques, Romans, Phoenicians, Iberians, Arabs, Berbers, Jews, Moors and Goths but in a way you're correct except obviously Judeans not Palestinians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    My theory just explains the "Northern European" component in Ashkenazi Jewish genetics as being Gothic which also explains the use of Yiddish. I think, as stated, there was an amalgam of Judean, Khazar and probably already heavily Slavicised Goths making up the Ashkenazi founding populations;

    Northern European isn't explained with germanic invasions/admixture, it's likely a much older thing. If you look at that image you'll see many populations also have "northern european", including sephardis, pakistanis or caucasians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Then my theory was true, the Ashkenazi are mestizos of Palestinians + German/Slavs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inquiring Mind View Post
    i dont know. did genetics reveal any such Thing?
    Yes. I think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    That's like saying you're mestizos of Basques, Romans, Phoenicians, Iberians, Arabs, Berbers, Jews, Moors and Goths but in a way you're correct except obviously Judeans not Palestinians.
    Iberians/Celts/Basques are very similar, Judeans/Palestinians and North Europeans are very different, as coffee and milk, a exotic mixture.

    I guess that is why Ashkenazi Jews are as aliens to the eyes of Europeans.


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    Jew, and Jewish is religion in first place, like for instance Khazars were Jews, but by religion, they took it to remain neutral, or something like that.


    Goths were Arian, I dont mean in Nazi sense, but of Arian Christianity, they were not Jews, also east Goths or Ostrogoths settled in Balkans massivley, it was their final destination, from where they launched attacks on Rome.
    I dont see many Jews here

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    Anglojew, you were strictly opposing me when i talked about Khazar jews, so what happened now? Did you start to believe that your zionist master lied to you to justify the existence of their Israeli state in middle-east?


    I will repeat what i said here for more than a year;

    Ashkenazim in Europe has been born after the dispersion of converted jews due to the destruction of Khazars state. They are ethnically eastern Goths, Turks and various Slavs who has been converted to judaism, basically the people of Eurasia. Also, i don’t believe the existence of middle-eastern jews among them. They must have been intermarried with Sephardis and middle-eastern jews after their dispersion to eastern and central Europe. They were originally not middle-easterner at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Goths were Arian, I dont mean in Nazi sense, but of Arian Christianity, they were not Jews, also east Goths or Ostrogoths settled in Balkans massivley, it was their final destination, from where they launched attacks on Rome.
    The original homeland of Ostrogoths was Crimea and surroundings but not Balkans. They came to Balkans together with Huns.

    Also, not all The Goths left Crimea but some stayed and lived in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    Anglojew, you were strictly opposing me when i talked about Khazar jews, so what happened now? Did you start to believe that your zionist master lied to you to justify the existence of their Israeli state in middle-east?


    I will repeat what i said here for more than a year;

    Ashkenazim in Europe has been born after the dispersion of converted jews due to the destruction of Khazars state. They are ethnically eastern Goths, Turks and various Slavs who has been converted to judaism, basically the people of Eurasia. Also, i don’t believe the existence of middle-eastern jews among them. They must have been intermarried with Sephardis and middle-eastern jews after their dispersion to eastern and central Europe. They were originally not middle-easterner at all.

    Are you saying that Ashkenazi Jews are not true Jews, only religious convert people of differents ethnic groups?

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    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    that is crap because most of Jews show genetic link to Middle East, thing is that those who went for Europe mingled, so they look bit more European than middle eastern

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    Northern European isn't explained with germanic invasions/admixture, it's likely a much older thing. If you look at that image you'll see many populations also have "northern european", including sephardis, pakistanis or caucasians.
    Sephardim could be explained by Spanish Gothic admixture and Pakistani with the "aryan invasion" theory. It doesn't discount my theory though.
    Spoiler!

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