Male involuntary celibacy on a mass scale: "dating scene" nightmare interview.

[Speaker]

Sorry, my fault.

I wanted to say you have to DO something, not to be an actor.

Well, you shouldn't always have to do all the work. Women should approach men and risk rejection too...

But we all know how it works in the real world.


The problem is that even if you act, it assures you nothing, and most women will have far more choice than you still.

As a single man, you can go and talk to 100 women. 70 will already have boyfriends, maybe 10 will give you their numbers. If lucky, you might get one single date. That date will probably lead nowhere and she will end up getting tired of you/dumping you in the end.

Compare that situation to that of a single woman.

[American_Hispanist]

cynewald is back.

[Mortimer]

The claim in op cannot be confirmed by my limited experience. I guess women have it easier to get a date but women are often also unhappy because they have loosers as boyfriends. It is hard for both genders to maintain a serious relationship

[Speaker]

The claim in op cannot be confirmed by my limited experience. I guess women have it easier to get a date but women are often also unhappy because they have loosers as boyfriends. It is hard for both genders to maintain a serious relationship

Unhappy with present boyfriend? Can easily be fixed by an account on random dating site (hundreds of replies); or, if that is too modern, simply walk into a random bar or do any social activity.

[American_Hispanist]

yup, thats cynewald.

[Wadaad]

Welcome back Cynewald

[Baluarte]

You took a little piece of truth, blew it out of proportion and made sure that it's impossible to properly discuss this topic.
Great disservice Mr.

[Speaker]

You took a little piece of truth

At least we agree on something, except for the "little" part.

blew it out of proportion

To the contrary, I am telling it quite like it is.

made sure that it's impossible to properly discuss this topic.
Great disservice Mr.

This is the best possible way to discuss the topic, by calling things for their name and not living in a fantasy world.

Where is your service to the cause of the male involuntary celibates?

[Grenzland]

Well, you shouldn't always have to do all the work. Women should approach men and risk rejection too...

But we all know how it works in the real world.


The problem is that even if you act, it assures you nothing, and most women will have far more choice than you still.

As a single man, you can go and talk to 100 women. 70 will already have boyfriends, maybe 10 will give you their numbers. If lucky, you might get one single date. That date will probably lead nowhere and she will end up getting tired of you/dumping you in the end.

Compare that situation to that of a single woman.

Well story of my life!

It is how it is, crying won't help!

It's also my fault. For me a lot of girls are attractive. I don't have to have a girlfriend that is blond, cup size D or whatever at any cost. As long she is pretty. I'm too picky when it comes to her views of life and relationships.

[Sarmatian]

Well, you shouldn't always have to do all the work. Women should approach men and risk rejection too...

This is where your problem starts. Your fucked up perception won't let you see the real roles of female and, more importantly for you, males.

Man's role is decision making, he should lead, make offers, be proactive. Woman is reactive creature in her very core, she hates to decide what to do (don't ever listen to all that modern crap they say, they will hate you for listening to them and giving up to their bullshit).

The problem begins when man start thinking that once he made a decision woman must accept it. But she doesn't have to, she have a choice to accept or reject man's proposal. That is feminine way of making decisions: react on man's actions. When woman naturally accept most of man's decisions that means this specific couple fit each other well and they can start a family.

It's kind of simplistic explanation of male/female roles. It is very basic thing and any deviation from it is a step towards disaster. The trouble is in the fact that there are so many deviations from this basic scheme considered as a norm by modern culture that any woman that tries to stick to this pattern will be immediately labelled as weirdo, weak, spineless. So everyone is pretty much forced to stick to a number of deviations which in turn making development of harmonious male/female relationships almost impossible.

But at the end dating is highly overrated. You only need one woman to forget the rest of them.