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    Well I might be mistaken but it seems to me right wing nationalism is on the rise in Europe and with the advent of Brexit I have adopted rabid English nationalism. Some of it has to do with seeing continental Europeans as foreign ( I see the Dutch and Danes as cousins but unfortunately still foreign). However , my experience in the failed experiment of America is what really made me a rabid English nationalist.

    Of course , we know from history the various pitfalls that can be associated with nationalism but I am already far too deep down the rabbit hole too deep now. There is really much more to say but I getting tired now and sleepy.

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    Preferred Political System:
    Delegative res publica with elements of direct democracy. Devolve the country by delegating policing and education to local government and citizenry. Introduce binding corrective referendums, abandon proportional representation in favour of district voting and increase the people's power over the judiciary by replacing the Raad van State and the Hoge Raad der Nederlanden by an elected Supreme (Constitutional) Court. Further opt for trial by jury (no jury duty, juries should be voluntary) and grant courts the power to check laws on their constitutionality (repeal art. 120).

    Political and civil rights
    Free speech: Somewhat supportive (malicious slander, racist attacks on the honour of the native Dutch population, public degeneracy to the point that it endangers public order and morality and sedition should still be punishable by law)
    Freedom of private worship and conscience: Somewhat supportive (This should not apply to religions which endanger public order)
    Freedom of public worship: Somewhat supportive (except for groups that endanger public order)
    Freedom of assembly: Somewhat supportive (except for seditious groups which should be disrupted, and any groups funded from abroad should be reviewed)
    Freedom of the press: Somewhat against (journalists, including citizen/investigative journalists (which will be given free reign), need to be members of the Nederlandsche Cultuurkamer which will receive a 25-year mandate to purge the Dutch press, the education system and the cultural life from all woke tendencies and all left-wing journalists will be sacked and the media taken back from foreign owners with the ownership being as widely dispersed throughout society by means of taking the company to the stock exchange with the shares only being sold to Dutch citizens (rather than Dutch or foreign banks or corporations).
    Corporal/capital punishment: Neutral. Legally, not possible (art. 113 of the constitution and art.2 on the EU Charter on Fundamental Rights)
    Universal suffrage: Somewhat opposed.(suffrage should only be extended to those over the age of 25. The right to stand for elections, should only be granted to the same.
    Compulsory voting: Somewhat opposed.
    Aristocracy and the Royal Family: (It may be clear that the aristocracy has, along with the Royal Family, failed to protect the country - or even moderate the never-ending onslaughts from globalism gone insane. Because of this, the aristocracy should be stripped of their remaining estates and their wealth should fall to the people - partially given to the farmers, partially to be turned into museums and opened to the public. Particularly hit should be the Royal Family. All noble titles should be declared permanently forfeit. They might as well leave the country).

    Nationalism/Internationalism
    Nationalism: Somewhat supportive (Don't get carried away: a silent pride will do ! Immigration will still be severely curtailed and most migrants should be repatriated, but there should be no room for overtly aggressive displays of national pride. We're not a country of flag-wavers. Express your pride one brick at a time in each building you build, each canal you dig, each road you lay, each field you plow. Furthermore: disband the Kingdom of the Netherlands as a federation (retaining only the European Netherlands) and grant independence to the Caribbean Netherlands while those former subjects will not retain their Dutch citizenship). Slowly buy up all Dutch artifacts and buildings in the region and rebuild them here.
    Internationalism: Somewhat opposed Stick to NATO (for the time being), the EU, Benelux etc.
    EU-membership (only for Europeans): Neutral but critical. The Netherlands should opt for opt-outs when it comes to immigration, nitrogen and the Euro with the Netherlands accepting a dual currency model with two currencies much like Panama (in their case the local currency and the USD) and return to a Guilder, pegged to the Euro.
    UN-membership: Strongly opposed (I'd prefer a League of Nations for Western nations and their key allies. We should also retain our unilateral commitment to most of their, non-social, organisations (such as UNESCO, ITU,UPU, ICAO and IAEA but accept their standards on our terms)
    NATO-membership: Neutral (favouring a European defence within the framework of the EU - see Macron). For now,
    ZOG: Strongly opposed (all foreign agents will have to register as such and will be monitored by the intelligence services (and face deportation if caught acting against national interests). Espionage and working on behalf of another country, if not registered, should be, on paper, punishable by life imprisonment. Dutch citizens who work on behalf of another country (such as Israel) or who try to undermine this country, will, on paper, face imprisonment for life since they are traitors when caught).
    Militancy(as in supporting military operations abroad): Strongly opposed (Units may only be used to patrol the sea lanes and deal with lawless elements) and for the defence of NATO territories. This may, unfortunately thanks to Putin, in the future include Sweden, Finland and Ukraine and I curse him for it (as well for the necessary evil of re-militarisation). This situation may now be a fait accompli, and should be treated likewise).
    Compulsory military service: Neutral. (A necessary evil, with both men and women to be drafted for a period of 18 months with annual repeat exercises)
    Women in the armed forces: Strongly opposed (but a necessary evil)
    Military Organisation: (A return to a Cold War-era-style draft may be a necessary evil. Which means a complete overhaul of the armed forces and subsequent militarisation. Preference should be given to European developed armaments but every system should be judged on its actual merits. The Air Force should also be returned to its Cold War-strenght with an equal number of planes (preference to be given to the F35) as were fielded during the height of the Cold War. Furthermore, expand the Navy by doubling the amount of ships and combining the support vessels into multirole amphibious assault ships/support ships. Which will increase both the support capacity as well as their combat strength. The number of submarines, to be used in undersea patrols in order to protect vital infrastructure, should be, at least tripled).
    Police Organisation: (Decentralise the police services by granting the powers back to the municipalities of the cities by splitting them up into the Gemeentepolitie (Municipal Police) and the Rijkspolitie (National Police). The Rijkspolitie will concern itself with the provinces and with border control. The Dienst Speciale Interventies (the police special force) are to be militarised and moved to the Marine Corps).

    The Economy
    Welfare state: Fully supportive (create a National Insurance with retains the current personal budget system. The National Insurance could also include a national basic income (rent and amenities already paid for) and serve as a general social security system). A seperate organisation should be set up that organises holidays for the poor, children, the working classes, the elderly and the handicapped, ill and infirm - that should be modelled on the ideas as practiced by Kraft Durch Freude as well as the GDR with its own hotels and campings. The State should endeavour to replace the post-war housing stock with modern and more efficient buildings and update pre-war ones to modern conditions. A job which should be made easier when the migrants are repatriated and the population falls back to 13.5 million over the coming 20 years due to natural die-off).
    Taxation: Neutral (all within reason): with the migrants gone, taxes can be slashed in half.
    Economic System: Social market economy, Keeping the Tri-partite system and building on it by including guilds..Local guilds may (set up as voluntary assistance groups) may place additional standards to protect the local SME's and stamp out big, and mostly, foreign chains and corporations.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over industries: Other. *All key industries ought to be publically owned.The rest would be in private hands. The national infrastructure will be publicly-owned (including all water, power, gas/heating etc.). Royal Dutch Shell and NAM, along with the entire chemical industrial sector as well as TATA steel (form. Hoogovens) would be nationalized and manage the nation's resources and its distribution.The Railways should be nationalised (using the name Staatsbedrijf der Nederlandsche Spoorwegen), mail and telecom/internet services would be renationalised and placed under a new PTT. All multinationals are to be nationalised and forcibly converted to more ethnical business standards with a part of the profts of the nationalised industries going into a national welfare fund. The same should be done with a part of the profits generated by the (air)ports and tolls on foreign traffic (road vignette). In order to protect the middle and lower class, all remaining large firms (even in retail) ought to be nationalised and broken up immediately, and their being leased or sold at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality).
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over banks: Other (The outrageous profits that were made by the plutocratic financial clique at the expense of the people during Covid and now during the War in Ukraine (that, supposedly, is our war), by means of absurd price hikes is nothing short of treason to the nation and those responsible should be investigated and see their money confiscated by the State - which that money either to be put to public use or handed back to their victims All banks and insurers should be nationalised for a period of 25 years, so an effective purge of the money can be carried out (starting with a repeat of the so-called Tientje van Lieftinck) in case the country has to return to the Guilder. After 25 years, most will be privatised in the form of breaking up monopolies into mutualist credit unions and mutual assistance funds. The State should retain a national public retail bank for those preferring a public solution, as well as a national insurance firm. All money exchange offices should be state-owned).
    Land reform: (As a fertile country, situated in a river delta, we should be able to feed ourselves, so the State needs to stop making life so difficult for the farmer, who is the heart and soul of the Nation and they ought to act in their defence, so there needs to a land reform suitable to national needs, and a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land). The remaining traditional feudal rights and duties (for as far as they still exist, even if symbolic), should be declared permanently void.)
    Environmentalism: Somewhat supportive (while the environment should be cared for, there should be no Green Deal. The energy policy should focus itself on nuclear energy rather than "clean" resources. All government preserves that aren't strictly speaking national parks given to farmers, water boards and public ssociations and entrusted in their care, and farmers should be expected to maintain the so-called "National Landscapes"). The Netherlands should reverse the destruction of wetlands as well as deforestation and explicitely ban those by law. Other than creating connections between the Utrechtse Heuvelrug, Veluwe and the Gooi, there should be full-stop on the expansion of new natural areas. Several areas along in the dunes should be earmarked for reforestation. The Oostvaardersplassen should be re-opened to agriculture. The Dollard, the Lauwersmeer, Wulpen, the Hooge Platen, the Hertogin Hedwigepolder, the Verdronken Land van Saeftinghe and the Balgzand should all be reclaimed and put to national use (mainly agricultural).
    Healthcare (Private/Public/Other): Public. Replace the current healthcare system with a national health service. There should be a national public purchasing programme for all medication, preferable through a continued European solution (a joint European purchasing power) into order to undermine Big Pharma.
    Education (Private/Public/Other): Public. (First it needs to be purged from imported American "marxism". Divide the country into school districts (between 60 and 70 for the whole country) while also allowing for more personal choice by allowing the Church (Protestant or Catholic), villages or parent associations to hire their own teachers and for home schooling. For the vocational education system, companies should be allowed to train prospective underage staff (following the old medieval system of the journeyman). The new grading system should actually be copied from the U.S as well as the final SAT score model. On all schools and universities: free school lunches are to be included and paid for by the government. On universities, this should extend to breakfast and dinner as well.

    Universities are to merge the 4TU universities (4 Technical Universities) into two highly selective Dutch versions of MIT or CalTech to be based in Delft (near Rotterdam) and Eindhoven and provide the new universities with campuses so people no longer need to find rooms elsewhere), merge the Protestant Theological University in Kampen and the more conservatively Protestant VU Amsterdam with Leiden University and move it to a campus near Leiden to form a 4HU (4 Humanities Universities) with universities such as Utrecht (striving for excellence while modelling themselves on the Ivy League), Groningen and a merger between conservative remaining Catholic parts of the universities of Tilburg, Maastricht and Nijmegen into a campused Catholic university based at Maastricht. The 4HU should lose their beta departments which should be merged into the new 2TU. Amsterdam (which, together with Nijmegen has had a nefarious role in spreading leftist propaganda) should see its university broken up, its health studies economics departments and research facilities moved to the 4HU. The private universities need to be broken up and merged into the state universities. The rest at Amsterdam, Nijmegen and other infected universities can be closed down immediately, New universities may be created by in their place but they have to be accredited on their social and political reliability and, like existing universities, may be closed down at any given moment if they were to spread woke or other seditious views as guarded by the Nederlandse Cultuurkamer. Education facilities in general should be built in traditional styles that fit in with their surroundings. This goes even more so for the universities which should not just become the Dutch competitors of America's and Britain's top universities but also adapt a modified (Dutchified) version of their architectural styles. A special national academy for traditional architecture also needs to be created).

    Social Conservatism.
    Political correctness: Strongly opposed
    Religion influencing politics: Neutral (but only in the case of Christianity)
    Degenerate media & entertainment: Strongly opposed (to be suppressed by the reintroduction of parts of the 1911 Public Morality Acts or Zedelijkheidswetten and the placing of the media under a purge overseen by the Nederlandse Cultuurkamer and examples of degenerate media should be used in high schools in a campaign of "public inoculation", other forms of degenerate media should either be banned from public (taxpayer-paid) TV or removed from museums and public libraries and professional pornography should be banned outright (treated as prostitution) but private consenting individuals can do as they like on closed forums where access is restricted to those over the age of 18. For the time being it would be wise to introduce some forms of censorship where certain works can be removed from the public space.)
    Prostitution: Strongly opposed (It's a vice, but for now, in an era with a collapsing family values,perhaps a sign of the times and a necessary evil. Unionisation should continue (and, perhaps, it should be the only "profession" for which unionisation should be mandatory), foreign prostitutes deported, pimps dealth with severely. Either way, I believe that an expansion of the welfare state, a strong propaganda focus on establishing families and general free education may uproot most of it).
    Pornography: Somewhat opposed (full stop ban (through a modified version of the 1911 Public Morality Acts) on professional pornographers because of their abuses. private consenting individuals can do as they like but it can't be made or spread in a public place where children may have access.)
    Abortion: Strongly opposed (I am very much anti-abortion. There should be a strong social stigma on it and most abortion cases should be able to be prevented by setting up a national adoption board where children that might have been aborted can be adopted by a loving parent after its birth. This also in order to bring down the number of foreign adoptions.) In case of a severe crippling handicap/low-viability, a still-birth, or a risk to the mother's health it should be permitted at any given time in the pregnancy as at that time, it can be concluded that a life lost may safe a life.
    Homosexuality: Neutral. (But only when it comes to the act itself between consenting adults. In fact, I believe we should return to the legal situation as it was before 1971 (art. 248bis WvS) with the age of consent placed at 21. Propaganda in which it is portrayed as a perceived family relationship, particularly when aimed at children, should be dealt with harshly with a law based on the famous British Section 28 as it is an attack on the family and thus on national stability).
    (If voted - Same-sex marriage): -
    (If voted - Civil unions for same-sex couples): -
    (If voted - Adoption by same-sex couples): -
    Drugs / alcohol / tobacco: Neutral (Banning them doesn't work. Either way, we should not give the government control over what we consume. However: drugs may be prescribed by psychiatrists or physicians for medical uses and the costs of purchasing them (at an licensed apothecary who may procure their supplies from licensed suppliers on the open market monitored by a national organization for quality control.
    Gun control: Somewhat opposed (only 18+ and criminals, the untrained and the insane should be refused permits. Concealed carry and "stand-your-ground" for the rest.)
    Euthanasia: Somewhat opposed In the "current year" the development of anaesthetics and the use of medicinal cannabis should be enough to ease the suffering of the terminally ill. I would believe we should, instead, improve the quality of palliative care).
    Eugenics: Somewhat opposed (the education/care system should only advise the mentally defected not to have children and give proper sexual education that is specifically tailored to their special needs. Either way: with the majority of migrants gone, the "low IQ"- problem is, mostly fixed so there will no need for any "drastic" (a.k.a insane) measures that violate both art 11 of the Constitution and our common Christian morality).
    Racial integration / miscegenation: Neutral (only direct ancestry through the paternal line should give access to the Dutch nationality, women who marry foreign should lose their citizenship and women who get pregnant fornicating with foreigners will see the resulting children deprived of Dutch citizenship as the father isn't Dutch)
    Divorce: Somewhat opposed(Get rid of no-fault divorce but work towards mediation, scrap child support and alimony. Families, even if disintegrated, are to be protected through a national basic income scheme. The Church may still ban divorce for its adherents if they see fit.)
    Immigration: Strongly opposed. (Only those married to native-born male Dutch citizens can become citizens and immigration is severely restricted for everyone else as only those who are here on a temporal basis (diplomatic staff, foreign students, certain professionals) should receive temporal work visa's). This does, of course, not include EU/EEA citizens who may settle and leave as they please and will be considered citizens in all but suffrage (may vote in local elections).
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    Political and civil rights
    Free speechoes not include calls for violence or incitation to hate.
    Freedom of religion: Does not include application of religious laws to non believers. When state law and religious law are in conflict, state law must prevail.
    Freedom of assembly: Any form of assembly that will create a major disruption of everyday life should require a permit from the municipality.
    Corporal/capital punishment: Two very different topics. Spanking a child for acting like a lil psycho and taking someone´s life as punishment for a crime aren´t comparable.
    Universal suffrage: All workers should have a say in how their cooperative is run. All companies, private and public, should ultimate be run as cooperatives. All citizens of a municipality should have a say in common ordinances and any structural projects that require any form of taxation. All citizens of a state should have a vote for the leadership of the state, but they must undergo years of education with this specific purpose during their school years. Like a core subject from early on.
    Compulsory voting:No

    Nationalism/Internationalism
    Nationalism: There´s some value to it, but it´s a double edged sword.
    Internationalism:I see the value in international associations of workers and also in geopolitical strategic agreements between sovereign nations with shared interests (multi polar world)
    EU-membership (only for Europeans): Undecided
    UN-membership: Undecided
    NATO-membership: Undecided
    ZOG:Undecided




    The Military
    Militancy (as in supporting military operations abroad):
    Compulsory military service: Undecided
    Women in the armed forces:Undecided


    The Environment
    Environmentalism: Undecided
    Urbanization: Human scale
    Natural/unprocessed food production: should be the norm.
    Animal rights: My ideas here aren´t fully developed and often in conflict.


    The Economy
    Welfare state: Should be handled at a municipal and community level, with fewer intervention from central state. A lot of taxes should be lowered or removed altogether. More money in people´s pockets and more say in the means of production would generally mean less need for welfare. However this alone would not solve the root of the problems and contradictions generated by social democracy and capitalism.
    Taxation: When it comes to the state, it should be lower and more focused on the basic needs of the state; Foreign policy, diplomacy and security. Most day to day affairs should be administered at a local and community level and each community should set its own taxes as voted by its inhabitants. Corporate tax should probably be abolished altogether, if companies are fully owned by their workers who make decisions democratically and capital gains are spread amongst them with reasonable equity. Say a store manager at Tesco would earn less than a Regional manager, who would earn less than a high executive and all would earn significantly more than a cashier. However the capital gains / dividends should be spread equally amongst all workers and all workers should have a democratic say in how the company is run, including elections to the board of directors.
    Economic System: (Write down your preferred economic system) A post industrial, post scarcity form of mutualism.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over industries: All industries that aren´t attached to a natural resource or key infrastructure should be private cooperatives democratically run by their workers who all own the means of production and capital gains.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over banks: Undecided
    National bank in public/private ownership: Undecided
    Healthcare (Private/Public/Other): administered by private cooperatives, but single tax payer , undecided between local and state responsibility
    Education (Private/Public/Other): administered by private cooperatives, but single tax payer , undecided between local and state responsibility


    Social Conservatism.
    Political correctness: You can say incendiary things in a comedy club, you can´t call for violence tho, or public displays of incitation of hate.
    Degenerate media & entertainment: Social Media should be accessible to verified adults only, tax money should not be spend in subversive forms of media or entertainment and private efforts should be confined to adult only and after hours.
    Religion: (in most cases) Should not be directly intertwined with policy.
    Pornography: Shadowbanned.
    Abortion: Undecided, leaning to allowing for in cases such as violence and vulnerability, severe deformities that will make the baby not survive infancy or where there´s risks to the health of the mother (not just life-threatening conditions, but to include also other derived physical or psychiatric ailments.)
    Prostitution: Should probably be highly regulated. Like with certain substances, there´s more social harm in its illegality than in the nature of the activity itself.
    Homosexuality: Same sex attraction and same sex love are not harmful to practitioners or society at large , don´t require medication or therapy by themselves and can't be (and shouldn't be) "cured" . LGTB lobby groups are an entirely different matter though.
    (If voted - Same-sex marriage): I´m not sure marriage should be a public institution, I think it should be a private affair dealt with by families, communities and religious groups.
    (If voted - Civil unions for same-sex couples)If voted - Adoption by same-sex couples): The state shouldn´t have to sanction unions. When it comes to adoptions, municipalities should probably mediate and make sure the adopters, regardless of orientation, can provide a stable and loving environment for the child.
    Drugs / alcohol / tobacco: Undecided, probably shadowbanned.
    Gun control: People with need (security personel, people living in rural areas, sportsmen and women etc) should be allowed to have guns once they pass strict H&S controls)
    Euthanasia: Only for people who have been declared terminally ill.
    Eugenics: Not through abortion. Less sure about gene therapy.
    Racial integration / miscegenation: I don't believe in the concept of race.

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    Preferred Political System:
    (Write down your preferred system of government)

    Political and civil rights
    Free speechoes not include calls for violence or incitation to hate.
    Freedom of religion: Does not include application of religious laws to non believers. When state law and religious law are in conflict, state law must prevail.
    Freedom of assembly: Any form of assembly that will create a major disruption of everyday life should require a permit from the municipality.
    Corporal/capital punishment: Two very different topics. Spanking a child for acting like a lil psycho and taking someone´s life as punishment for a crime aren´t comparable.
    Universal suffrage: All workers should have a say in how their cooperative is run. All companies, private and public, should ultimate be run as cooperatives. All citizens of a municipality should have a say in common ordinances and any structural projects that require any form of taxation. All citizens of a state should have a vote for the leadership of the state, but they must undergo years of education with this specific purpose during their school years. Like a core subject from early on.
    Compulsory voting:No

    Nationalism/Internationalism
    Nationalism: There´s some value to it, but it´s a double edged sword.
    Internationalism:I see the value in international associations of workers and also in geopolitical strategic agreements between sovereign nations with shared interests (multi polar world)
    EU-membership (only for Europeans): Undecided
    UN-membership: Undecided
    NATO-membership: Undecided
    ZOG:Undecided




    The Military
    Militancy (as in supporting military operations abroad):
    Compulsory military service: Undecided
    Women in the armed forces:Undecided


    The Environment
    Environmentalism: Undecided
    Urbanization: Human scale
    Natural/unprocessed food production: should be the norm.
    Animal rights: My ideas here aren´t fully developed and often in conflict.


    The Economy
    Welfare state: Should be handled at a municipal and community level, with fewer intervention from central state. A lot of taxes should be lowered or removed altogether. More money in people´s pockets and more say in the means of production would generally mean less need for welfare. However this alone would not solve the root of the problems and contradictions generated by social democracy and capitalism.
    Taxation: When it comes to the state, it should be lower and more focused on the basic needs of the state; Foreign policy, diplomacy and security. Most day to day affairs should be administered at a local and community level and each community should set its own taxes as voted by its inhabitants. Corporate tax should probably be abolished altogether, if companies are fully owned by their workers who make decisions democratically and capital gains are spread amongst them with reasonable equity. Say a store manager at Tesco would earn less than a Regional manager, who would earn less than a high executive and all would earn significantly more than a cashier. However the capital gains / dividends should be spread equally amongst all workers and all workers should have a democratic say in how the company is run, including elections to the board of directors.
    Economic System: (Write down your preferred economic system) A post industrial, post scarcity form of mutualism.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over industries: All industries that aren´t attached to a natural resource or key infrastructure should be private cooperatives democratically run by their workers who all own the means of production and capital gains.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over banks: Undecided
    National bank in public/private ownership: Undecided
    Healthcare (Private/Public/Other): administered by private cooperatives, but single tax payer , undecided between local and state responsibility
    Education (Private/Public/Other): administered by private cooperatives, but single tax payer , undecided between local and state responsibility


    Social Conservatism.
    Political correctness: You can say incendiary things in a comedy club, you can´t call for violence tho, or public displays of incitation of hate.
    Degenerate media & entertainment: Social Media should be accessible to verified adults only, tax money should not be spend in subversive forms of media or entertainment and private efforts should be confined to adult only and after hours.
    Religion: (in most cases) Should not be directly intertwined with policy.
    Pornography: Shadowbanned.
    Abortion: Undecided, leaning to allowing for in cases such as violence and vulnerability, severe deformities that will make the baby not survive infancy or where there´s risks to the health of the mother (not just life-threatening conditions, but to include also other derived physical or psychiatric ailments.)
    Prostitution: Should probably be highly regulated. Like with certain substances, there´s more social harm in its illegality than in the nature of the activity itself.
    Homosexuality: Same sex attraction and same sex love are not harmful to practitioners or society at large , don´t require medication or therapy by themselves and can't be (and shouldn't be) "cured" . LGTB lobby groups are an entirely different matter though.
    (If voted - Same-sex marriage): I´m not sure marriage should be a public institution, I think it should be a private affair dealt with by families, communities and religious groups.
    (If voted - Civil unions for same-sex couples)If voted - Adoption by same-sex couples): The state shouldn´t have to sanction unions. When it comes to adoptions, municipalities should probably mediate and make sure the adopters, regardless of orientation, can provide a stable and loving environment for the child.
    Drugs / alcohol / tobacco: Undecided, probably shadowbanned.
    Gun control: People with need (security personel, people living in rural areas, sportsmen and women etc) should be allowed to have guns once they pass strict H&S controls)
    Euthanasia: Only for people who have been declared terminally ill.
    Eugenics: Not through abortion. Less sure about gene therapy.
    Racial integration / miscegenation: I don't believe in the concept of race.
    Many sensible things there, except for the last sentence: are you seriously saying one cannot objectively tell apart Norwegians, Ghanaians and Koreans, whether through phenotype or genotype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Many sensible things there, except for the last sentence: are you seriously saying one cannot objectively tell apart Norwegians, Ghanaians and Koreans, whether through phenotype or genotype?
    The hyper-complexity of human diversity can't be simplified into the Anglo-germanic colonial concept of race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Jockey View Post
    The hyper-complexity of human diversity can't be simplified into the Anglo-germanic colonial concept of race.
    While I agree that few if any people are really 'pure', equally our genes and our phenotypes are much of the time pretty good guides as to our geographical origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    While I agree that few if any people are really 'pure', equally our genes and our phenotypes are much of the time pretty good guides as to our geographical origins.
    Of course, undeniably people who have lived for millenia in the artic will have developed adaptations that make them look different from people living in the tropics. Again, in my opinion, the hyper-complexity of human diversity can't be simplified into the Anglo-germanic colonial concept of race and bears no relevance the development of my political philosophy. I reject it the same way I reject other Anglocolonial concepts like gender (to me little else than a postmodern adaptation of the Christian body-soul dichotomy with apparent neocolonial implications).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Jockey View Post
    Of course, undeniably people who have lived for millenia in the artic will have developed adaptations that make them look different from people living in the tropics. Again, in my opinion, the hyper-complexity of human diversity can't be simplified into the Anglo-germanic colonial concept of race and bears no relevance the development of my political philosophy. I reject it the same way I reject other Anglocolonial concepts like gender (to me little else than a postmodern adaptation of the Christian body-soul dichotomy with apparent neocolonial implications).
    (1) It isn't just skin colour, but facial features that differ too, and cannot be explained by environmental adaptation (at least not entirely). For example, why do East Asians have an epicanthic fold to their eyes, or most SSAs have fat noses?

    (2) That humans are a sexually dimorphic species (as is the case with most other recognised species too) is a scientific fact that has been recognised by most if not all societies and cultures since the dawn of time.

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    1) Epicanthic folds have zero relevance for my political philosophy or my thoughts of Anglo Colonial notions of race.
    2) Yes, that’s mammal biology 101. Gender however is a postmodern Anglo American neo-colonial belief system.
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