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    Cantilčne de sainte Eulalie remids me a bit of the Sermoni Subalpini...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudel View Post
    From different vulgar Latins.


    Tuscan is posterior to Sicilian in terms of literary maturity. It heavily drew from Occitan and Sicilian traditions (after all Petrarca made the sonnet, a Sicilian invention, popular).
    Tuscan almost wrote his Commedia in Occitan, hopefully for Italy he didn't.
    Yes, I agree with your points, just, mine sentences were directed at alfieb's message:

    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    Like Romanian, Sicilian developed from Vulgar Latin by itself. Italian didn't exist. Tuscan wasn't well-established as a literary language until the Renaissance, while as you've demonstrated, proto-Sicilian had been written during the Arab era.
    Tuscan literature reached its peak, under Dante, which is not that long after peak of Sicilian poetry, in time of Emperor Friedrich II. And all Romance langueages, had their own indipendent evolution, not something specific for Romanian and Sicilian languages exclusively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Yes, I agree with your points, just, mine sentences were directed at alfieb's message:



    Tuscan literature reached its peak, under Dante, which is not that long after peak of Sicilian poetry, in time of Emperor Friedrich II. And all Romance langueages, had their own indipendent evolution, not something specific for Romanian and Sicilian languages exclusively.
    This (approssimative) map show all the romance families which developed after Rome's fall even the extinct ones or some (like rhaeto-romance) which have reduced their areas (note also in green colonial venetian varieties):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Sicilian language in terms of grammar and core vocabulary would have more in common with Romanian.
    Now that is simply false.
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