Russia's Demographics Are Now Better Than The Baltics'

[glass]

do not trust the census Estonia. Many people actually live in the EU countries, and participated in the census on the Internet. The actual population of Estonia is even less.

natural growth is unrelated to migration

Is this happening due to a higher fertility rate of ethnic Russians, or due to Islamic minorities from the Caucasus and Central Asia?

foreign migrants can not contribute to russian natural growth. Caucasus people with high fertility rate arnt that numerous (5-7 million at max). So natural growth is mostly from ethnic russians, we have higher amount of young women compared to previous years, so more children, also mortality rate become lower.

Russians sure do act a lot like Mexicans in the US, unfortunately.

bulgars act abroad like toilet cleaners, russians like tourists

[Talvi]

bulgars act abroad like toilet cleaners, russians like tourists

Russian tourists are like toilet cleaners????!!

[Baluarte]

Of course you are gonna have a shitty time if you cant speak the official language. Thats pretty much a given in most countries. Youll face more hardships on the work market and also social and cultural isolation.

I understand that. The difference is that I know plenty of stories from Russians who do speak Estonian getting refused in the workplace in favour of ethnic Estonians.

[glass]

Russian tourists are like toilet cleaners????!!

my bad i forgot turanic people on this forum lack brain capabilities
i will try to repharse
bulgars/estonians abroad - toilet cleaners
russians abroad - tourists

[Talvi]

my bad i forgot turanic people on this forum lack brain capabilities
i will try to repharse
bulgars/estonians abroad - toilet cleaners
russians abroad - tourists

Ill rephrase too.

If Bulgars act like toilet cleaners and you say that Russians act like tourists... but in reality Russians are absolutely horrifying, then this would me that the average Russian tourist acts like a toilet cleaner! Although it is giving too much credit. They actually act like the reason toilets need to be cleaned in the first place.

[Talvi]

I understand that. The difference is that I know plenty of stories from Russians who do speak Estonian getting refused in the workplace in favour of ethnic Estonians.

Well as you cant speak Estonian and you havent met these people so you arent in the position to properly assess their Estonian. Just because they speak it does not mean it is any good. If you want a job dealing with Estonians, your Estonian better be near perfect!

[glass]

Ill rephrase too.

If Bulgars act like toilet cleaners and you say that Russians act like tourists... but in reality Russians are absolutely horrifying, then this would me that the average Russian tourist acts like a toilet cleaner! Although it is giving too much credit. They actually act like the reason toilets need to be cleaned in the first place.

russians create workplaces for bulgars. isnt it good for european economy?

[RussiaPrussia]

Is this happening due to a higher fertility rate of ethnic Russians, or due to Islamic minorities from the Caucasus and Central Asia?

What you dont get is that central asians arent counted in the statistics if you would russias population would be 150 million, they also are mostly men meaning they cant have children in russia, they send money into their home for their family and children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra..._increase_2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...nd_death_rates

Even in Regions where Russians are the majority of over 95% people have a higher birthrate than estonia

[member]

From a American's blog:

Now, having just come from Russia, I don’t think this is a bad thing: I like Russians. But apparently, the Russians of the Baltic’s are different from the real Russians. They are the Hispanics of America, the Albanians of Greece and Macedonia, the Moroccans of Western Europe, and the ?¢‚Ǩ?ìAsian?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢s?¢‚Ǩ? of the UK. In other words, the poor, criminal segment of the population. Well, perceived in that way anyway. This problem was exemplified by my bus trip into Estonia.

My bus from St Petersburg to Tallinn, had me sit next to a friendly girl. Anastasia was a 22 year old university student, who was returning home from a semester in St Peterburg. Her English, though not perfect, was decent. Although she calls Estonia home, she can’t speak Estonian beyond a few basic phrases – her English is better than her Estonian. And her parents don’t speak any Estonian. Ethnically she is Russian, and yet despite living outside of Russia, she and her family make not efforts to integrate into the country they live in. They live in Russian neighbourhoods, she went to Russian schools, and parties at Russian clubs. Why bother learning the local language?

http://eliasbizannes.com/blog/2005/11/baltics/

I pity Latvians and Estonians for having to go through all that.

That there are people like this Anastasia show definitely show level pf integration of the whole Soviet immigrants community. That would be something unamiganabe in Lithuania. Immigrants have to adjust to the majority and that is something natural, no question.

[Styggnacke]

The Caucasians are doing a good job.