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    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo View Post
    wtf is a Wilno
    Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania and maybe the area around it, in Polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteBear View Post
    Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania and maybe the area around it, in Polish.
    Oooohhhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    I thought you borroved that tradition from Russians during the occupation.
    1795 - never forget.

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    In a survey from 2003, as many as 82% of Catholics in Belarus declared that they have Polish ancestry, including 66% with fully Polish ancestry and 16% from mixed families. In the westernmost Diocese of Grodno 95% of Catholics declared Polish ancestry, while in the easternmost Archdiocese of Minsk-Mogilev still as many as 73%.

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    http://www.kresy.pl/publicystyka,fel...na-bialorusi-#

    Osobliwość Kościoła katolickiego na Białorusi
    Pomimo ogromnych strat osobowych Kościoła katolickiego na Białorusi w wyniku II wojny światowej oraz zmian w narodowościowym składzie jego wiernych, w dalszym ciągu ich większość stanowią wierni zdecydowanie utożsamiający się z narodowością polską. Przeprowadzone w 2003 r. badania socjologiczne, które objęły 43 parafie, czyli 12 proc. ich ogólnej liczby, a w nich 860 osób w różnym wieku, poczynając od mających 12 lat, wykazały, że 63 proc. katolików na Białorusi uważa się za Polaków. W diecezji grodzieńskiej odsetek ten wynosi 80 proc., w pińskiej - 70 proc., w witebskiej - 57 proc., a w archidiecezji mińsko-mohylewskiej - 35 procent. Aż 82 proc. katolików podało, że ma pochodzenie polskie, w tym 66 proc. pochodzi z rodzin całkowicie polskich, a 16 proc. z mieszanych. Tylko 18 proc. pochodzi z rodzin niepolskich. Największy odsetek katolików polskiego pochodzenia, bo 95 proc., jest w diecezji grodzieńskiej, a najmniejszy w archidiecezji mińsko-mohylewskiej, bo 73 procent.
    According to the same survey a much smaller percent of Catholics (even though over 4/5 declare Polish ancestry) still identify themselves as exclusively Poles (rather than Poles-Belarusians or exclusively Belarusians) - 63% in the nationwide scale, while 80% in the Diocese of Grodno, 70% in the Diocese of Pinsk, 57% in the Diocese of Vitebsk and just 35% in the Archdiocese of Minsk-Mogilev. So in the Archdiocese of Minsk-Mogilev the process of De-Polonization is more advanced than elsewhere.

    It seems that this is still more than according to official Belarusian censuses, which most certainly underestimate the size of Polish minority - especially in central and eastern regions of the country. In official censuses only in the Grodno province the number of Poles is indeed equal to 80% of the number of Catholics (according to the census of 1999). However, a lot of these Poles are obviously not Catholics, because in several regions of this province there are more Poles than Catholics.

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    https://books.google.pl/books?id=IID...2orusi&f=false

    (it also describes census falsifications - for example those which reduced the % of Poles from 65,48% to 9,79% in Ostrowiec Raion from 1959 to 1970):



    After WW2 the goal of new Soviet administration was to destroy the Catholic Church in Western Belarus (this had been done in Eastern Belarus already during the period between 1921 and 1939). Until 1953, as many as 90% of all priests who stayed in Belarus (others were deported to Poland together with their parishioners) were arrested. Over half of them were sentenced to 25 years in labor camps. Out of 387 Catholic churches existing in 1945, only 86 survived until 1986.

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    Here about census manipulations in Ukraine:

    http://www.rp.pl/artykul/412422.html?print=tak

    In this interview Stanisław Kostecki, chairman of the Association of Poles in Ukraine, says that in his own home region - Chemerivtsi Raion - the last Ukrainian official census counted only 9 Poles. While in reality the Polish community in this Raion numbers many thousands and recently they constructed 14 new Polish churches.
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    Lietuvas didn't respect our rights// The Polish National-Territorial Region (Polish: Polski Kraj Narodowo-Terytorialny) was an autonomous region in Lithuania, self-proclaimed by the local Poles on 6 September 1990. The region included areas surrounding Vilnius (Polish: Wilno), capital of Lithuania, where Poles formed the majority (60–90%),[1] This Eastern part of Lithuania had been part of Poland (from 1922) before being attached to Lithuania under the Mutual Assistance Treaty with the Soviet Union in 1939. The autonomy region with capital in Naujoji Vilnia (Polish: Nowa Wilejka) included 4,930 km˛ and population of 215,000 (66% of them were Poles and 34% in Naujoji Vilnia[2]). The Polish autonomist movement (the leaders of which included Jan Ciechanowicz) was related to the Yedinstvo movement and had tacit support from Moscow (thus, when following the Act of the Re-Establishment of the State of Lithuania the Soviets applied a blockade against Lithuania, the areas of Eastern Lithuania with significant minority population were mostly spared of the blockade, with the aim of gaining minorities' support for Moscow). In the region, the Polish Red-and-White flags were used as official flag and Rota was used as an anthem in the region.

    The Lithuanian government declared the formation of the Polish autonomous district in Lithuania unconstitutional. After the August Coup of the Soviet hardliners had failed, the Lithuanian parliament suspended on 3 September 1991 the democratically elected local councils that had sought autonomy or secession from Lithuania.[3]


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    Quote Originally Posted by FeederOfRavens View Post
    Nay, Vilnius was founded by Lithuanians on Lithuanian land. Poles came later but the Lithuanians are native.
    Pretty much this could end such thread and then I see Rugevit talking about Belarus and Lyssyi being Lyssyi

    Conclusion - unban Rugevit and Lyssyi(Rethel came back so why not them too)

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