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    A skull that rewrites the history of man

    It has long been agreed that Africa was the sole cradle of human evolution. Then these bones were found in Georgia...

    By Steve Connor, Science Editor

    Wednesday, 9 September 2009


    One of the skulls discovered in Georgia, which are believed to date back 1.8 million years

    One of the skulls discovered in Georgia, which are believed to date back 1.8 million years


    The conventional view of human evolution and how early man colonised the world has been thrown into doubt by a series of stunning palaeontological discoveries suggesting that Africa was not the sole cradle of humankind. Scientists have found a handful of ancient human skulls at an archaeological site two hours from the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, that suggest a Eurasian chapter in the long evolutionary story of man.

    The skulls, jawbones and fragments of limb bones suggest that our ancient human ancestors migrated out of Africa far earlier than previously thought and spent a long evolutionary interlude in Eurasia – before moving back into Africa to complete the story of man.

    Experts believe fossilised bones unearthed at the medieval village of Dmanisi in the foothills of the Caucuses, and dated to about 1.8 million years ago, are the oldest indisputable remains of humans discovered outside of Africa.
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    But what has really excited the researchers is the discovery that these early humans (or "hominins") are far more primitive-looking than the Homo erectus humans that were, until now, believed to be the first people to migrate out of Africa about 1 million years ago.

    The Dmanisi people had brains that were about 40 per cent smaller than those of Homo erectus and they were much shorter in stature than classical H. erectus skeletons, according to Professor David Lordkipanidze, general director of the Georgia National Museum. "Before our findings, the prevailing view was that humans came out of Africa almost 1 million years ago, that they already had sophisticated stone tools, and that their body anatomy was quite advanced in terms of brain capacity and limb proportions. But what we are finding is quite different," Professor Lordkipanidze said.

    "The Dmanisi hominins are the earliest representatives of our own genus – Homo – outside Africa, and they represent the most primitive population of the species Homo erectus to date. They might be ancestral to all later Homo erectus populations, which would suggest a Eurasian origin of Homo erectus."

    Speaking at the British Science Festival in Guildford, where he gave the British Council lecture, Professor Lordkipanidze raised the prospect that Homo erectus may have evolved in Eurasia from the more primitive-looking Dmanisi population and then migrated back to Africa to eventually give rise to our own species, Homo sapiens – modern man.

    "The question is whether Homo erectus originated in Africa or Eurasia, and if in Eurasia, did we have vice-versa migration? This idea looked very stupid a few years ago, but today it seems not so stupid," he told the festival.

    The scientists have discovered a total of five skulls and a solitary jawbone. It is clear that they had relatively small brains, almost a third of the size of modern humans. "They are quite small. Their lower limbs are very human and their upper limbs are still quite archaic and they had very primitive stone tools," Professor Lordkipanidze said. "Their brain capacity is about 600 cubic centimetres. The prevailing view before this discovery was that the humans who first left Africa had a brain size of about 1,000 cubic centimetres."

    The only human fossil to predate the Dmanisi specimens are of an archaic species Homo habilis, or "handy man", found only in Africa, which used simple stone tools and lived between about 2.5 million and 1.6 million years ago.

    "I'd have to say, if we'd found the Dmanisi fossils 40 years ago, they would have been classified as Homo habilis because of the small brain size. Their brow ridges are not as thick as classical Homo erectus, but their teeth are more H. erectus like," Professor Lordkipanidze said. "All these finds show that the ancestors of these people were much more primitive than we thought. I don't think that we were so lucky as to have found the first travellers out of Africa. Georgia is the cradle of the first Europeans, I would say," he told the meeting.

    "What we learnt from the Dmanisi fossils is that they are quite small – between 1.44 metres to 1.5 metres tall. What is interesting is that their lower limbs, their tibia bones, are very human-like so it seems they were very good runners," he said.

    He added: "In regards to the question of which came first, enlarged brain size or bipedalism, maybe indirectly this information calls us to think that body anatomy was more important than brain size. While the Dmanisi people were almost modern in their body proportions, and were highly efficient walkers and runners, their arms moved in a different way, and their brains were tiny compared to ours.

    "Nevertheless, they were sophisticated tool makers with high social and cognitive skills," he told the science festival, which is run by the British Science Association.

    One of the five skulls is of a person who lost all his or her teeth during their lifetime but had still survived for many years despite being completely toothless. This suggests some kind of social organisation based on mutual care, Professor Lordkipanidze said.

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    Lightbulb "Age and Origin of the Human Species"

    Originally Posted at the nordish portal
    i did not give it an other thought, until i read
    Most people still agree with the Leakian thesis that all human life began in Africa,
    and that we are thus all "Africans," originally
    (although some archaeologists are now proposing an Asian origin)
    in a book review.

    i immediately queried a specialist in
    white-history
    with whom i am privileged to correspond.
    he, initially, replied with

    http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/5/26
    and http://dx.doi.org/10.1006/jhev.2002.0601

    then he sent http://rafonda.com,
    all of which are accompanied by hundreds
    of peer-reviewed supportive references.


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    Interesting! will give this a read through when I have finished work

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    Here's a pic of one of the skulls:



    Great stuff! It has occured to me many times that there is something very ancient and cradle like about that part of the world. Geographically, it's the hinge between Africa, Asia & Europe...speaking a bit broadly of course, meaning from the Black & Caspian Seas southwestward to Egypt...
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    We have long known about homo-georgicus, the West-Asian erectus type from which Caucasoids likely emerged. I'm not sure what's supposed to be new about this find; how it alone will "rewrite history".

    We already knew, with no possibility of dispute, that humanoids existed everywhere inhabitable in the Old World millions of years ago. The Out-of-Africa cultists, though, wildly flail their arms while shouting at you that every single humanoid everywhere else was "replaced", totally and absolutely, by a race of intrepid expansionists from Africa a mere 50,000 years ago. No genes from any archaics anywhere survived, according to this irrational cultist view. [Some have commented that OoA-cultists basically take a view of prehistory that is a mirror-image perversion of what Aryan Theorists did in centuries past- Pushing a narrative of a mysterious and noble race that in prehistory founded everything and to whom we owe everything. In short, a race to be venerated and celebrated literally in the way that some groups practice this. OoA-cultists seek to venerate blacks as the founding stock of humanity; for Aryanists it was Nordics... both reflected the political climates of their times].

    Out-of-Africa cultists will just keep their fingers in their ears no matter how many new skulls are found or other evidence is compiled. Theirs is one of the minor "founding myths of the modern world order" (a concept that I like a lot), so I don't expect it to come tumbling down anytime too soon. The truth notwithstanding.


    Out of Africa is not true. Human Evolution is much more complicated than that. The human "races" certainly existed long before homo-sapiens emerged in the past 150,000 years.
    In response to the obvious skeptical reaction: How could the races develop before Homo-Sapiens did? Isn't that counter-logical? This is how it went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    The Out-of-Africa cultists, though, wildly flail their arms while shouting at you that every single humanoid everywhere else was "replaced", totally and absolutely, by a race of intrepid expansionists from Africa a mere 50,000 years ago. No genes from any archaics anywhere survived, according to this irrational cultist view.
    Can you say what (if any) genes have been found that are from archaics in modern populations?

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    I think that it is more plausible to see a combination of out of Africa and multiregional rather than just a reliance on one or the other.
    I believe that legends and myth are largely made of
    “truth”, and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffrea View Post
    I think that it is more plausible to see a combination of out of Africa and multiregional rather than just a reliance on one or the other.
    That's actually what modern multiregional theory is, a combination of local types developing over a huge time period and being constantly infused with new flow from africa. Not that the types just evolved by themselves seperately for 1 million+ years. Nobody thinks that for at least 50+ years. At least, I hope not.

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    Originally Posted by Troll's Puzzle
    That's actually what modern multiregional theory is, a combination of local types developing over a huge time period and being constantly infused with new flow from africa.
    Really? Hmmm, need to brush up on my knowledge there, yet more books for the list…..
    I believe that legends and myth are largely made of
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    To God everything is beautiful, good, and just; humans, however, think some things are unjust and others just.
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