Is hungary more a Balkan nation than a central european?

[Szegedist]

1) By Balkans, do you mean Czech Republic?
2) It is debatable whether Slovenia and Croatia are Balkan in the first place.
3) This thread is not for spamming genetics charts. It's not Haplogroups that makes someone Balkan or not, but culture, history, mentality and so on, something that is difficult for Anthronerds to understand.

[Lemon Kush]

Balkan. They have the same amount of gypsies.

[Gospodine]

3) This thread is not for spamming genetics charts. It's not Haplogroups that makes someone Balkan or not, but culture, history, mentality and so on, something that is difficult for Anthronerds to understand.

I only said genetically.

Culturally and historically; I don't consider Hungarians "Balkan".

2) It is debatable whether Slovenia and Croatia are Balkan in the first place.

It's debatable whether the term "Balkan" is even a valid ethnogenetic category in the first place and whether it has any relevance beyond geography. So if you're going to use arbitrary terms like that, don't act like you've got any credibility to begin with.

[riverman]

Balkan, central European is debatable as that would make Estonia east Europe!

[Szegedist]

Balkan. They have the same amount of gypsies.

By same logic, USA and Spain is Balkan too.

[Cern]

Czech are closer.

Balkan. They have the same amount of gypsies.

Afro-Americans are worse. Hungary is a better place to live than the USA. :

[alfieb]

Balkan, central European is debatable as that would make Estonia east Europe!

Estonia is Eastern Europe.
Hungary is Central Europe.

Their enemies are Balkanites, while their friends are Central Europeans. They cluster with Central Europeans. They have more political history with Central Europe (House of Luxemburg, union with Brandenburg (Berlin area), union with Poland, union with Bohemia, union with Austria, rule over Slovakia, etc.)

There were Hungarian emperors of Holy Roman Empire, the largest power in Central Europe. There were never Serb, Croatian, etc.

[Twistedmind]

Balkan. They have the same amount of gypsies.

Acctually they have more gypsies than any Balkan country. But no they are not Balkans, they are Central Europe. Altough, Balkans is just geographic term. Genenticaly and culturaly it is verry diverse. Hungarians have cultural and gennetic ties with Balkan countries near to them, but not with Greece and Albania for example.

[glass]

Balkan
Culturally balkans is former european part of Ottoman Empire, so Hungaria as balkan as Serbia or Bulgaria.
Also out of all balkan countries only muslim Bosnia and Albania have stronger affinity with Turkey.
I do not understand how Hungaria less balkan than say Croatia.

[Szegedist]

Balkan
Culturally balkans is former european part of Ottoman Empire, so Hungaria as balkan as Serbia or Bulgaria.
Also out of all balkan countries only muslim Bosnia and Albania have stronger affinity with Turkey.
I do not understand how Hungaria less balkan than say Croatia.

The Ottomans occupied a THIRD of Hungary for only 150 years, compared to many centuries of Ottoman rule for the Balkan. Much of Ottoman Hungary was not even ethnic Hungarian due to the mass influx of South Slavic settlers.

The Balkan is characterized by the Byzantine-Ottoman heritage. Hungary has some of it, but a very small amount compared to states south of us.
You know absolutely nothing about Hungarian culture, by same logic Russia is Mongol because of the Mongol empire...

It is also debatable how Balkan Croatia is. Slavonia, Zagorie, probably not such much.