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    Quote Originally Posted by rashka View Post
    What does Kryvyija mean?
    Krivichs was one of the largest union of tribes living in northern, eastern and central Belarus. Kryvyija is derived from the name of the tribe : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krivichs

    In Latvian language Belarus is Baltkrievija.

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    Germanic:

    • England - Angle land / Angle country (Angles were the dominant Germanic tribe in England. 'Land' still means country and still has limited use but is considered archaic). Most other Europeans call it something along the lines of 'Anglia' which means the same thing, although Celts name it after the Saxons.
    • Deutschland - People's land? (English call it 'Germany' from Roman borrowing 'Germania' from Gauls, which meant something like 'Neighbours').
    • Nederlands - 'Lowlands' (English name is a corruption of it).
    • Vlaanderen (Flanders) - 'waterlogged land'
    • Luxembourg - 'Little Castle'
    • Österreich (Austria) - 'East realm'
    • Liechtenstein - 'Light stone' (named after the ruling dynasty).
    • Schweiz (Switzerland) - to burn (land cleared by slash and burn agriculture)
    • Danmark (Denmark) - 'Dane March'
    • Sverige (Sweden) ?
    • Norge (Norway) 'North way'
    • Føroyar (Faroe Islands) - 'Sheep islands'
    • Ísland (Iceland) - 'Ice land'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temujin View Post
    Krivichs was one of the largest union of tribes living in northern, eastern and central Belarus. Kryvyija is derived from the name of the tribe : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krivichs

    In Latvian language Belarus is Baltkrievija.
    Krivichi are one of major part of Russian ethnicy, so modern Belarussians are basicly Russians mixed with lithuanians and Polacks, but mostly they are still russians and Russian is even the main language in Belarus

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    Celtic:

    • Eire (Ireland) - named after a goddess. English name from same root.
    • Alba (Scotland) - from 'Albion', an ancient name for the island of Great Britain derived from a old Celto-Italic word root 'Alba' meaning 'white' (referring to the white cliffs of Dover - in England). 'Scotland' is derived from Latin 'Scotti' which is a name for Irish pirates.
    • Cymru (Wales) - 'compatriots'. English 'Wales' literally means 'foreigners'
    • Kernow (Cornwall) - named after an old Celtic tribe called the 'Cornovii'.Their name meant something akin to 'edge of land'. English name 'Cornwall' is a mixture of two words - Ker became Corn and 'wall' (from 'wealisc' - Welsh) was added, so it means 'Cornish foreigners'.
    • Ellan Vannin / Mannin (Isle of Man) - 'Island with the mountain'
    • Breizh (Brittany) - 'Britain' (a lot of Celts from Britain fled to Armorica and gave it that name).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamane View Post
    Litbel sounds so bad. The person who invented it had no taste.

    No, I don't want Belarus to be Lithuania #2. That would create a lot of hostility obviously. I was just curious
    I couldn't agree more on the ugliness of the name LitBel Republic.

    Edit: I wouldn't mind Belarusians having pahonia as a coat of arms, the current one is a crappy communist one and has no connection to Belarus appart from communist past. Red white flag also would look better. However, you know my opinion about certain pseudo theories present in Belarus. I hope it would not turn into some kind of rivalry.
    There are reasons for folk history which I could discuss it with you in other time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokol View Post
    White Russia.
    In Dutch it is even called 'Wit-Rusland' and in German 'Weißrussland', etc... for all other Germanic languages except for English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Krivichi are one of major part of Russian ethnicy, so modern Belarussians are basicly Russians mixed with lithuanians and Polacks, but mostly they are still russians and Russian is even the main language in Belarus

    That's a stereotypical ill-informed Russian who doesn't know his ancestry. This is a precisely kind of comment that gets the Russians on the wrong side with all of its neigbours.

    One branch of Krivichs lived in nothern Pskov (Russia). The other branch lived in Smolensk(western Russia), Viciebsk(Belarus), Mahiliou (Belarus), Minsk (Belarus) and southern Pskov (western Russia). Western Smolensk and southern Pskov were part of the GDL until Moscow principality annexed it. Till world war ii people in southern Pskov and western Smolensk were speaking a Belarusian dialect.
    People of western Smolensk and southern Pskov ethnographically are closer to the Belarusians. You can go to any forum in Smolensk or Pskov region and people will confirm it. Moreover, Kriviches living in Pskov and Kriviches lived in Belarus had different burial culture. The northerners were mixed with local Finno-Ugric tribes, while Kriviches in Belarus mixed with local Baltic tribes.

    You see, Russia is the kind of country in which all neighbouring nations can find their relatives as Russia was expanding in the last 500 years. Finno-Ugric Veps in northern Russia are related to Estonians. In Karelia people are related in Finns. There were many Finno-Ugric tribes living along Volga river. And so on. Kriviches could not resettle the vast territories of Russia out of western Smolensk region.

    Belarusians are not a mix of Poles and Lithuanians. Different Slavic tribes took part in ethnogenesis of Poles and Belarusians. Lithuanians are mostly Balts.
    Last edited by Temujin; 08-24-2013 at 03:51 PM.

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