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    Quote Originally Posted by objectiverealist View Post
    On a genetic level, Teri Hatcher wouldn't differ from a lot of Europeans. The only difference is her MENA admixture was recent instead of ancient. You would call her not white even though she looks white, clusters in Europe, and is 75% European. This my friend is using social construct instead of science.
    I already explained why this example is flaw, so unless you can reply with more substantive points. Don't bother to do so, you indefatigable cretin. She's 75% White, 25% Non-White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru View Post
    I already explained why this example is flaw, so unless you can reply with more substantive points. Don't bother to do so, you indefatigable cretin. She's 75% White, 25% Non-White.
    So in other words she is just as "White" to you as someone 25% Black?
    The example is not flawed Genetics show that many Europeans have DNA similar to hers. How would ancient admixture be different from recent in terms of genetics and clustering? You are a hypocrite because you are quick to claim ancient SSA mixture within groups.
    Would you expect her to identify as a "minority"? You are a hypocrite in the sense you would chastise Teri Hatcher for claiming to be White (who actually clusters with Whites) but probably wouldn't care if someone 3/4 Black 1/4 White and clustered away from pure Africans claimed to be Black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by objectiverealist View Post
    So in other words she is just as "White" to you as someone 25% Black?
    The example is not flawed Genetics show that many Europeans have DNA similar to hers. How would ancient admixture be different from recent in terms of genetics and clustering? You are a hypocrite because you are quick to claim ancient SSA mixture within groups.
    Would you expect her to identify as a "minority"? You are a hypocrite in the sense you would chastise Teri Hatcher for claiming to be White (who actually clusters with Whites) but probably wouldn't care if someone 3/4 Black 1/4 White and clustered away from pure Africans claimed to be Black.
    Yep. The example is flawed, because I can just as well claim, that somebody who is 75% Chinese, 25% Native Chilean is "Asian". Because they cluster within the boundaries of East Asia. It doesn't matter if they do or not, they're never going to be 100% East Asian.

    Because the ancestries of East Asians and Native Americans are disparate enough, not to be same. Often times, genetic clustering does not apprehend all of the variation, observed in individuals or populations. It has to be taken into account, in tandem with other genetic data. By your outlandish reasoning, Fairy Princess would be an Ashkenazi Jew, since she clusters with Ashkenazi Jews.

    Once again, you fail to demonstrate how she's 100% White.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru View Post
    Yep. The example is flawed, because I can just as well claim, that somebody who is 75% Chinese, 25% Native Chilean is "Asian". Because they cluster within the boundaries of East Asia. It doesn't matter if they do or not, they're never going to be 100% East Asian.

    Because the ancestries of East Asians and Native Americans are disparate enough, not to be same. Often times, genetic clustering does not apprehend all of the variation, observed in individuals or populations. It has to be taken into account, in tandem with other genetic data. By your outlandish reasoning, Fairy Princess would be an Ashkenazi Jew, since she clusters with Ashkenazi Jews.

    Once again, you fail to demonstrate how she's 100% White.
    You don't use those same standards for a Greek. They are 100 percent white to you. Anyways you don't have to be 100 percent of a race to be that race. There comes a point where someone is no longer mixed but a part of the dominant race. My reasoning? No I wouldn't say she was an Ashkenazi because that's an ethnic group... not a race. I am talking about race not ethic groups. You have an agenda to try to take away people's racial identities.
    Racially such a person would be an Asian. I bet you would call that person hypocritical if that person didn't want their kid to marry say a White or Black because they are "mixed" according to you.

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