Latvia to become 18th eurozone member from 2014

[Permafrost]

You are as stuck as you want to be, I wish we had the stance Czech have towards both Russia and EU.

I doubt it's a matter of choice. On one cardinal direction you have retarded Eurocrats, on the other corrupt Russian oligarchs. There's simply no way out of it.

What I propose for us Slavs, Balts and Hungarians is Intermarium



EDIT: Excluding Estonians obviously, we don't want to drag their Nordic asses down to our level.

[Citizen]

not anti russian but wanting to be part of the west as much as possible, hence they still hold swedish language as official

When was it not part of "the west"? If Finland wanted to be more part of "west" they should join NATO, that's a western military alliance, euro is an economic choice (probably bad one for them as well in retrospect), from what I know they have Swedish as official in some island or something where predominantly Swedes live, thou I don't see how that makes them more "western", is Swedish more western language than Finnish and if so why is that?

[RussiaPrussia]

When was it not part of "the west"? If Finland wanted to be more part of "west" they should join NATO, that's a western military alliance, euro is an economic choice (probably bad one for them as well in retrospect), from what I know they have Swedish as official in some island or something where predominantly Swedes live, thou I don't see how that makes them more "western", is Swedish more western language than Finnish and if so why is that?

yes uralic comes from asia, finland isnt a scandinavian country. Nato isnt a western organisation thats why turkey is in there.

[Styggnacke]

Its actually the same for Finland, all other Scandinavians didnt want to join the EU except them.

All EU countries are forced to join the EMU at some point, that's why Finland joined the EMU in 2002 like all other EU countries did. The only exceptions from the EU 15 countries are Sweden (because of our referendum), Denmark and the UK (they managed to get some deal with Brussels which excepted them from this rule). So, it has nothing to do with "Finnish Russophobia".

And the reason why Swedish is official in Finland is mainly because of the Åland islands, which are unilingually Swedish. They wouldn't have got them from the League of Nations in 1921 if they didn't have Swedish language as official language and gave autonomy to the islands. Nothing do to with some imaginary "Russophobia" in this case either.

yes uralic comes from asia, finland isnt a scandinavian country.

It's a Nordic country, though.

[Citizen]

yes uralic comes from asia, finland isnt a scandinavian country. Nato isnt a western organisation thats why turkey is in there.

The division of west and east comes from cold war divisions of the world, it has nothing to do with linguistics. It was pretty simple then, pro-USA countries joined NATO and pro-USSR Warsaw pact, so in that case Finland was technically with the west but not fully as it never joined NATO. Rest was called third world.

All EU countries are forced to join the EMU at some point, that's why Finland joined the EMU in 2002 like all other EU countries did. The only exceptions from the EU 15 countries are Sweden (because of our referendum), Denmark and the UK (they managed to get some deal with Brussels which excepted them from this rule).

I think its something that can be postponed indefinitely as long as there is a lack of support from the public a government can just call referendum and take the whole thing down, so its not like Finland didn't had the same rules Sweden did. From what I know, they didn't had a referendum on the subject, if they didn't had the public support for it, they could have easily stayed with national currency. Our current government is blantly ignoring the majority who is against it.

[Harkonnen]

yes uralic comes from asia, finland isnt a scandinavian country. Nato isnt a western organisation thats why turkey is in there.

Origin of Uralic is not in Asia, but in Volga-Urals which counts in Europe. The origin of Indo-European was just south of Uralic, not in west Europe so I fail to see why speaking IE would translate to western Europeanish synonymity sköggeböikedeleish.

[Szegedist]

I doubt it's a matter of choice. On one cardinal direction you have retarded Eurocrats, on the other corrupt Russian oligarchs. There's simply no way out of it.

What I propose for us Slavs, Balts and Hungarians is Intermarium



EDIT: Excluding Estonians obviously, we don't want to drag their Nordic asses down to our level.

I have a counter proposal, Slovenia, Croatia and the Balts join the V4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegr%C3%A1d_Group

But the V4 would need some reforms, because right now its too Eu friendly, but it has potential.

Such ideas are nothing new, Intermarrum, Kossuth's Danubian federation, and our goverment actually wanted to do this during WW2, make a federation of Central European countries ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1...27s_assistance ), but none of the attempts sadly worked out, now most of the region are slaves to Anglo-Germanics.

[Citizen]

But none of the attempts sadly worked out, now most of the region are slaves to Anglo-Germanics.

I think people like Viktor Orban can change that, at least in Hungary.

[Szegedist]

I think people like Viktor Orban can change that, at least in Hungary.

Viktor Orbán is an exception.

Speaking of Viktor Orbán, he talked about countries from the Adriatic to the Baltic banding together.
He went to Poland with this idea, but Donald Tusk rejected it, after this it didn't come up again.

[Pure ja]

yes uralic comes from asia, finland isnt a scandinavian country. Nato isnt a western organisation thats why turkey is in there.

Uralic origin is not in any way more eastern than indo-european.
BUT, uralic is definitely more NORDIC !