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i dont think there is enough DNA to tell where R1b L11 Indo European in western europe came from i really really doubt they went through turkey the first indo europeans in trukey where hittites Indo European culture took off in teh pontic steppes not turkey sure teh maykop culture should signs of being indo european but that is probably because of contact with steppe people the culture of teh Nordic bronze age, Unetic culture and other early indo european cultures ine urope trace to to stepppe cultures the Unetice 4,000ybp and modern irish and scottish used plaid clothing this clothing was also similar to GErmanic tribes clothing and to teh clothing ancinet syhthiens wore and there was palid tarten clothing fom INdo Iranien taroum mummies from 3,000ybp so they had teh same clthing as western european R1b L11 Indo Europeans and we know they came form the steppes so it makes sense that teh R1b L11 INdo Europeans also came from the steppes the Bulgarian thing i not goo enough evidence
u dont find high amounts of west asian and southwest asian globe13 austomnal DNA in R1b areas in europe liek u would except if tehy came from Turkey and since lets say orignally tehy had 100% R1b when tehy where in turkey tehy would have still inter married with other people in turkey who had mainly Y DNA J then why dont u see any J in Ireland or Denmark or any where in western europe besides known areas of Greco Romans there is no trace of a mid eastern trukish gene flow in western europe except Italy because of the Greco Roman world
and there is a huge connection with red hair and R1b L11 in western europe which means it rpobablycame from those indo europeans which means they where white europeans not brown turkish people and they probably did not come from south eastern europe either and the fact that indo iraniens also had alot of red hair and they came from steppe indo europeans too that probably means the ones in western europe came from the steppe
u mad that thread about the DNA from northern steppe cultures 5,000-6,000ybp like yamna they might get DNA from the ancestors of the Adronovo people or the Indo European that went to western europe i was suprised when they said they had dark eyes because over 70% of Indo Iranien remains had light eyes but people in that area today have less than 15% light eyes
u cant just say because slavs dont have R1b means they did not g through eastern europe R1b L11 we dont know right now why some indo european groups had almost only R1a1a1b and why the western european ones and probably the Hittites had almost only R1b or why INdo Europeans are so connected to R1a and R1b
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