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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    Despite the sincere efforts Poles cannot appreciate Ottomans due to historical reasons
    I'm curious, what historical reasons are these? As far as I know the following is the only contact between Poland and Ottoman Empire:

    In 1772 Austria, Russia and Prussia have singed a treatment to share Poland. On the other side, Ottoman Empire have never accepted Poland's breaking down. With this friendly behavior of Ottomans, Turkish became a harbor for the Polish political emigrants. Especially the crew escaping from the 1831 War, 1848 Hungarian Riot, Crimean War and 1863 Riot have found a safe place with the Turkish protection. After this invasion and secession, National Poland Government was established at Paris, France. Polish Prince Adam Czartoryski have foreseen the independence of Poland with the accompany of Ottoman Empire and participating the war against Russia.

    Prince Adam Czartoryski have settled in France during that period and established the Polish Representative Office in Istanbul in 1841. Michal Czajkowski (Chayka Pasha) was the first administrator of this Representative Office. In 1842, Prince Czartoryski ent a letter to the Ottoman Government offering an establishment of Polish Colony at the land's of Lazarist Priests in Istanbul. Lazarist Priests and Ottoman Government accepted the offer and with the treatment signed on 3rd of March, 1842, Prince bought (hired first) the Lazarist Priest's lands of about 5.000.000 square meters to forever. This treatment corresponds the establishment of Polish Agriculture Colony at the Ottoman lands. In 19th of March, 1842, the village took the name of "Adampol" with a religious ceremony. Michał Czajkowski, after converting into the Islam in 1850, took the name of Mehmet Sadik Pasha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post

    Thank God for the Ottoman Empire. It has my appreciation, gratitude and respect.
    What would have happened to your nation if Battle of Vienna in 1683 had failed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    What would have happened to your nation if Battle of Vienna in 1683 had failed?
    Nothing. My nation was saved, effectively, by the Ottoman Empire's attack on the Spanish fleet. That allowed the Dutch to revolt and kick the Catholic Spaniards out of the Netherlands. Otherwise I may not have existed, my ancestors burnt alive in their homes by the Spanish (many of them were ..).

    The Ottoman Empire was also known for its religious tolerance, and provided asylum for Protestant refugees in Istanbul - where they enjoyed freedom of religion for the first time.
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    Erm, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Nothing. My nation was saved, effectively, by the Ottoman Empire's attack on the Spanish fleet. That allowed the Dutch to revolt and kick the Catholic Spaniards out of the Netherlands. Otherwise I may not have existed, my ancestors burnt alive in their homes by the Spanish (many of them were ..).

    The Ottoman Empire was also known for its religious tolerance, and provided asylum for Protestant refugees in Istanbul - where they enjoyed freedom of religion for the first time.
    If you say 'nothing', I accept 'nothing'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    If you say 'nothing', I accept 'nothing'
    Nothing negative, I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Nothing negative, I mean
    Me, too. Modern Ottomans are far away from historical ones

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    If Ottomans didn't conquered medieval Bosnia, Bosnia would remain independent or more likely would be conquered by Hungary,and I would probably be Catholic today

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    For historical reasons, neither can appreciate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Swan View Post
    If Ottomans didn't conquered medieval Bosnia, Bosnia would remain independent or more likely would be conquered by Hungary,and I would probably be Catholic today
    You have much to be thankful for
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