Are gypsies more white than Arabs , Turks , Armenians ?

[ButlerKing]

You can't claim Berbers, Armenians, Turks, Jews, Arabs, or any Middle eastern people as white unless you claim GYPSIES or ROMA as white first. They have more European DNA than any of those groups.

[Loki]

Interesting. Good thread for Gigolo.

[ButlerKing]

If you think gypsies still look INDIAN like this you have to be crazy. Their South Asian DNA are a minority.
They were descendants of Jatts and Rajputs but today they are closer to Europeans.

[ButlerKing]

Gypsies have a lot of achievements too.


Politicians and activists[edit]

Juscelino Kubitschek - Brazilian president. His mother was of Czech Roma descent.
Damian Draghici – (born 1970) Humanitarian, Civil Society Supporter, Ambassador for European Year of Equal Opportunities for All, musician, Romania
Rajko Djuric – (born 1947) Serbian writer and academic, leader of Roma Union of Serbia
Alfonso Mejia-Arias – musician, writer and politician, Mexico
Ian Hancock – Romani scholar and activist, born in UK, living in USA, Professor at the University of Texas
Lívia Járóka – Hungarian Member of the European Parliament
Mădălin Voicu – (born 1952) Romanian politician. His father, Ion Voicu, is Romani
Ştefan Răzvan – (? – 1595) Prince of Moldavia, Ruled Moldavia for four months. (Romani father)
Nicolae Păun – Romanian politician
Ágnes Osztolykán - Hungarian politician
Juan de Dios Ramírez Heredia – Ex-member of the European Parliament, founder of the Romani Union, Spain
Viktória Mohácsi – (born 1975) Hungarian Member of the European Parliament
Ronald Lee – (born 1934, in Montreal), Canadian Romani novelist, activist and U.N. delegate
Romani Rose – German Sinto activist
Dávid Daróczi – (1972–2010) Government Spokesperson of the Republic of Hungary
Rudolf Sarközi – chairman of the Austrian Romani association Kulturverein.
Sani Rifati – Serbian activist
Ali Krasniqi – Albanian writer and activist
Bajram Haliti – Kosovar activist


Authors and writers[edit]

Veijo Baltzar – Finnish writer[1]
Rajko Djuric – (born 1947) Serbian writer & activist
Caren Gussoff – American writer. Claims "Romani and mixed heritages".
Delia Grigore – (born 1972) Romanian writer, academic and activist
Ronald Lee – Canadian writer, Romani activist and lecturer at the University of Toronto.[2]
Matéo Maximoff – French writer
Louise Doughty – British writer
John Bunyan – Christian author[3]
Lafcadio Hearn – Irish writer[4]
Charlie Smith – poet.
Baja Saitovic Lukin – poet
Mehmed Merejan
Ceija Stojka – (born 1933) Austrian author and painter
Katarina Taikon – (born 1932) Swedish children's writer
Bronisława Wajs – (1908–1987) AKA "Papusza", Polish poet and singer


Musicians[edit]

Azis - (1978-) Bulgarian chalga (pop-folk) singer.
Sinan Sakić - Serbian Folk singer of Romani descent.
Django Reinhardt - (23 January 1910 – 16 May 1953) Belgian-born pioneering virtuoso jazz guitarist and composer who invented an entirely new style of jazz guitar technique (sometimes called 'hot' jazz guitar) that has since become a living musical tradition within French Manouche culture.
Mariska Veres – (1947–2006) Lead singer of the Dutch rock group Shocking Blue. Daughter of Hungarian Romani violinist Lajos Veres and Franco-Russian mother.
Carmen Amaya – (1913–1963) Spanish flamenco dancer
Vicente Escudero – Spanish flamenco singer, dancer and choreographer; occasionally painter, writer and actor.
Pyotr Leshchenko – Russian (born 1858–1903))
Grigoraş Dinicu – Romanian composer and violinst
Anjeza Shahini – Albanian
Pista Dankó – (born 1858–1903) Hungarian-born bandleader and composer
Sandro de América – (1945–2010) Argentinian singer and actor
Adam Ant – (born 1954) British punk/New Wave musician; maternal grandmother is Romanichal.
Elek Bacsik – (1926–1993) Hungarian-born American jazz violinist and guitarist
Robi Botos – Canadian musician and composer from Hungary
Joe Zawinul – Austrian musician. His grandmother was a Hungarian Romani, and his grandfather was from southern Moravia.
Eugene Hütz – Ukrainian singer, guitarist, writer and actor
Saban Bajramovic – (1936–2008) Serbian singer
János Bihari – (1764–1824) Hungarian violinist
Věra Bílá – (born 1954) Czech folk and pop singer
Iva Bittová – (born 1958) Czech singer, violinist and composer
Diego "El Cigala" – (born 1968, Madrid) Spanish flamenco singer
Joaquín Cortés – Spanish flamenco dancer
"Rayito" Antonio Rayo – Spanish Guitarist, singer and composer. Father Gitano (Iberian Kalo) and mother Japanese
Panna Cinka – (1711–1772) Hungarian Violinist, born in Kingdom of Hungary in modern Slovakia
Georges Cziffra – (1921–1994) Hungarian virtuoso pianist
Drafi Deutscher – (1946–2006) German Sinto songwriter, singer and composer
Damian Draghici – Romanian, composer and panflute player
Fanfare Ciocărlia – (formed 1996) Romanian brass band
"Falete" Rafael Ojeda Rojas – Spanish singer
Lolita Flores – (1958) Spanish singer and actress.
Antonio Flores – (1961–1995) was a Spanish singer-songwriter and actor.
Rosario Flores – (born 1963) Spanish singer and actress, Latin Grammy award winner
Camarón de la Isla – (1950–1992) Spanish flamenco singer
Kal – Romani world music Band from Serbia
Nicolas Reyes – Franco-Spanish singer, guitar player
Tonino Baliardo – Franco-Spanish guitar player
Los Niños de Sara – French (Spanish origin, Iberian Kale) rumba and flamenco singers and guitar players
Ketama – Spanish new-flamenco band
Sasha Kolpakov – (born 1943) Russian guitarist
Biréli Lagrène – (born 1966) French jazz guitarist, violinist and bassist
Denny Laine – British musician (The Moody Blues, Wings)
Félix Lajkó – (born 1974) Hungarian-Serbian violinist and composer (part Romani)
Albert Lee - (born 1943) London born and raised country rock guitar legend. His father is Romanichal.[5]
Joe Longthorne – (born 1955) English singer and impressionist
Irini Merkouri – (born 1981) Greek pop singer
Aggelopoulos Manolis – (1939–1989) Greek singer and actor
Sofi Marinova – Bulgarian singer
Boban Marković – Serbian brass bandleader and trumpet player
Jerry Mason – American Singer, Guitarist
Carlos Montoya – (1903–1993) Spanish flamenco guitarist
Ramón Montoya – (1889–1949) Spanish flamenco guitarist
Ivo Papazov – (born 1952) Bulgarian jazz clarinetist
Manitas de Plata – (born 1921) Spanish guitarist
Valentina Ponomaryova – (born 1939) Russian singer
Dzej Ramadanovski – born 1964 in Belgrade (former Yugoslavia), modern Serbian folk singer
Johnny Răducanu – (born 1931) Romanian jazz musician
Esma Redzepova – (born 1943) Macedonian singer and songwriter
Jimmy Rosenberg – (born 1980) Dutch swing guitarist
Marianne Rosenberg – (born 1955) German singer and songwriter. Daughter of German Gypsy who survived Auschwitz.
Paulus Schafer - (born 1978) Dutch jazz guitarist
Tchavolo Schmitt – (born 1954) French jazz guitarist
Taraful Haiducilor – (Taraf de Haïdouks) Romanian band, formed 1989
Nicolae Neacşu ("Culai") – Lăutar, was the leader of Taraf de Haïdouks
Wally Tax – Dutch rock singer, of The Outsiders. Son of a Dutch father and a Russian Romani mother.
Manuel Torre – (1878–1933) Spanish flamenco singer
Isabel Pantoja – Spanish singer
Mihaela Ursuleasa - Romanian pianist[6]
Encarnación Salazar and Antonia Salazar, better known as "Azúcar Moreno". Spanish singers
Ion Voicu – (1923–1997) Romanian violinist and orchestral conductor, founder of Bucharest Chamber Orchestra
Sotis Volanis – Greek pop folk singer
Harri Stojka – Austrian jazz guitarist
Radoslav Banga – of Czech group Gypsy.cz
Joy Olasunmibo Ogunmakin – Ayọ (stage name), German singer
Didem – Turkish Bellydancer
Romica Puceanu – (1928–1996) Romanian singer (Urban Lăutarească Music)
Gabi Luncă – (born 1938) Romanian singer (Urban Lăutarească Music)
Esma Redžepova – Macedonian vocalist, songwriter, and humanitarian. Born in Skopje
Pere Pubill Calaf "Peret" – (born 1935) Catalan Spanish singer, guitar player and composer

Cinema and theater[edit]

Yul Brynner – Actor. Romani on his mother's side.
Marcia Nicole Lakatos known as Manoush – Dutch-German actress. Her mother is of Manouche origin.
Nikolai Slichenko – Russian actor
Tony Gatlif – French film maker of Algerian Kabyle and Spanish Roma origin.
Ştefan Bănică, Sr. – Romanian actor
Artists[edit]

Antonio Solario – Italian artist
Helios Gómez – Spanish artist, writer and poet
Otto Mueller – painter and printmaker, Sinti mother
Micaela Flores Amaya, La Chunga, Flamenco dancer and painter
Joe Machine, (1973) British Stuckist painter

Athletes[edit]

Boxers[edit]

Dawid Kostecki – Polish light heavyweight boxer of Romani decent
Ivailo Marinov – also known as Ismail Mustafov, Ismail Huseinov or Ivailo Khristov) is a Rom Bulgarian boxer, who won the bronze medal at the 1980 Summer Olympics in light flyweight, and the gold medal in the same category at the 1988 Summer Olympics
Serafim Todorov – was a Bulgarian/Georgian boxer at the 1996 Summer Olympics who won a silver medal. He is the last boxer to ever defeat the highly regarded Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Boris Georgiev – is an amateur boxer from Bulgaria who won a bronze medal at the 2004 Summer Olympics in the Light Welterweight class
Jem Mace – Bareknuckle Boxing Champion, Father of Modern Boxing; called "The Gypsy," but denies Romani ancestry in his autobiography
Johann Wilhelm Trollmann – German light-heavyweight boxer killed during the Porajmos
Silvio Branco – Italian light heavyweight Boxing Champion
Michele di Rocco – Italian Light Welterweight Boxing Champion
Faustino Reyes – Spanish Boxing he won the silver medal in the featherweight division (– 57 kg), 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona
Billy Joe Saunders – British Boxing, represented Great Britain in the 2008 Olympics
Norbert Kalucza – Hungarian Boxing
Jakob Bamberger - German amateur boxer, twice the German Vice-flyweight champion, Olympic selection in 1936, in the years 1970/80 activist in Sinti civil rights movement[7]
Luke Tyson Fury[8] - British professional boxer who fights in the heavyweight division.
Football players[edit]
Pierre-Yves André – French (Retired)
Aljoša Asanović - Croatian (Retired)
Richard Carpenter – English (Retired)
Freddy Eastwood – Welsh (Free Agent)
Arturo Garcia, Arzu – Spanish (Free Agent)
André-Pierre Gignac – French (Olympique Marseille)
Dani Güiza – Spanish (Getafe)
Raby Howell – English (Retired)
José Mari – Spanish (Xerez CD)
Petre Marin – Romanian (Retired)
Gigi Meroni – Italian (Retired)
Jesús Navas – Spanish (Sevilla FC)
Bănel Nicoliţă – Romanian (AS Saint-Etienne)
Marian Ognyanov – Bulgarian (Botev Plovdiv)
Christos Patsatzoglou - Greek (PAS Giannina F.C.)
Ricardo Quaresma – Portuguese (Beşiktaş)
José Antonio Reyes – Spanish (Sevilla FC)
Tommaso Vailatti – Italian (Retired)
David Vairelles – French (FC Gueugnon)
Tony Vairelles – French (FC Gueugnon)
Rafael van der Vaart - Dutch (Hamburger SV)
Various[edit]

Kerope Patkanov – scientist
Rodney "Gipsy" Smith – (1860–1947), British evangelist
August Krogh – scientist, Nobel prize winner
Sofia Kovalevskaya – Major Russian female mathematician of 1/4 Romani descent[9]
Jimmy Marks – litigant in a lawsuit against the city of Spokane, Washington
Settela Steinbach – Holocaust victim
Ceferino Giménez Malla – Spanish beatified Catholic catechist

[Demhat]

Gypsies ( or Roma ) are not inferior, they are great musicians, dancers, they also have few notable people who are gypsies, even if they are thief they are the greatest and bravest thief. They are also one of the people who can live in harsh conditions.

It makes no sense to claim Berbers as White while Gypsies as non-white. Berbers have mostly local North African DNA with some Neolithic European admiture. Gypsies have mostly European DNA with some South Asian DNA. It's time we all accept Gypsies as part of the White race. I have respect for the gypsies, people call them thieves but they are the greatest thieves and

These are actually Irish travelers, it is proven that they have nothing to do with the classic Gypsies but are just local Irish people who follow a nomadic lifestyle.

Gypsies are a diverse looking people, Gypsies are not restricted to one ethnicity or country, you can find Gypsies in India who look very dark, than you find Gypsies in Germany who appear like Germans cause they have mixed often with the host population.

[Loki]

Gypsies are Aryans. Fact.

[ButlerKing]

These are actually Irish travelers, it is proven that they have nothing to do with the classic Gypsies but are just local Irish people who follow a nomadic lifestyle.

Gypsies are a diverse looking people, Gypsies are not restricted to one ethnicity or country, you can find Gypsies in India who look very dark, than you find Gypsies in Germany who appear like Germans cause they have mixed often with the host population.

No they aren't, they are just gypsies

[ButlerKing]

DNA admixture shows Romani are 60-75% European. More whiter even than Jews or any Middle eastern or North African population.

[Demhat]

No they aren't, they are just gypsies

I have seen at least the second photo already and it is definitely of Irish travelers and a typical irish travelers wedding and dressing style.

Here when I googled Irish travelers




They often marry in groups



However the other photos seem to be real Gypsies.

[ButlerKing]

I have seen at least the second photo already and it is definitely of Irish travelers and a typical irish travelers wedding and dressing style.

Here when I googled Irish travelers




They often marry in groups



However the other photos seem to be real Gypsies.

Dude it doesn't matter the last two pictures I showed you were Romanian gypsies.

Gypsies also known " Roma " has more than 65-90% European admixture that is higher than any non-European group.