Do modern Macedonians have some Ancient Macedonian ancestry?

[poiuytrewq0987]

There are two problems. First, we don't know for sure what the ancient Macedonians were, an separate ethnic group, a mix of Illyrians and thracians, a sub branch of ancient greeks, etc.
Second, we know for sure that the modern Greeks has nothing to do with ancient greeks.

Who cares what the ancient Macedonians were, they spread Greek culture and language. The Greeks today practice the same culture and language. That's the end of discussion as far as I am concerned.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Come on, what's next, Zeus was a prosfig?

No idiot. The leader of the Greek gods was living in Greek soil: Macedonia.

[Petros Houhoulis]

There are two problems. First, we don't know for sure what the ancient Macedonians were, an separate ethnic group, a mix of Illyrians and thracians, a sub branch of ancient greeks, etc.

You don't know because you are an idiot, but Marsyas of Pella, a Macedonian historian, is quite clear about the very first king of Macedonia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caranu..._of_historians

According to Justin (7.1) citing Marsyas of Pella“ Caranus also came to Emathia with a large band of Greeks, being instructed by an oracle to seek a home in Macedonia. Here, following a herd of goats running from a downpour, he seized the city of Edessa, the inhabitants being taken unawares because of heavy rain and dense fog. Remembering the oracle’s command to follow the lead of goats in his quest for an empire, Caranus established the city as his capital, and thereafter he made it a solemn observance, wheresoever he took his army, to keep those same goats before his standards in order to have as leaders in his exploits the animals which he had had with him to found the kingdom. He gave the city of Edessa the name Aegae and its people the name Aegeads in memory of this service

Second, we know for sure that the modern Greeks has nothing to do with ancient Greeks.

We know that you are an idiot Labitch. Everybody who follows genetics knows that modern Greeks have more or less the same genes with the Ancient Greeks. My personal estimation is that we have 80%~90% continuity from Ancient Greece, as a whole. For more info, check eupedia.com and more specifically the page ydna.eu

[brennus dux gallorum]

Second, we know for sure that the modern Greeks has nothing to do with ancient greeks.

[Albobalboa]

Who cares what the ancient Macedonians were, they spread Greek culture and language. The Greeks today practice the same culture and language. That's the end of discussion as far as I am concerned.

The Greeks today practice the same language as it was imposed on them to unite the Greek Orthodox citizens of Greece, it is not a result of ethnic continuity. Maria Efthimiou a famous Greek historian has a good piece on Arvanites where she also explains the difficulties in teaching the Greek language to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0mMTwLn3mA

As for the culture of modern Greece being even remotely similar to ancient Greek cultures I have to ask what have you been smoking? Everything from the very core with the Greek Orthodox Religion goes DIRECTLY against Ancient Greek culture and world view.

[Petros Houhoulis]

The Greeks today practice the same language as it was imposed on them to unite the Greek Orthodox citizens of Greece, it is not a result of ethnic continuity.

That only applies to the Arvanites and other minorities which do not constitute more than 20% of the modern Greek population

Maria Efthimiou a famous Greek historian has a good piece on Arvanites where she also explains the difficulties in teaching the Greek language to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0mMTwLn3mA

The Arvanites do not constitute more than 5% of the Greek population today, probably much less...

As for the culture of modern Greece being even remotely similar to ancient Greek cultures I have to ask what have you been smoking? Everything from the very core with the Greek Orthodox Religion goes DIRECTLY against Ancient Greek culture and world view.

Religion is not part of our identity, and most modern Greeks do not go to church, my poor boy!

P.S.

Shqiptars who can't even name their own grandparent by their own admission should not comment upon the purity of others...

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...randfather-was

[Albobalboa]

I'd be surprised if Arvanites compose even 1% of Greek population today, vast majority have intermixed and become full Greeks.

Religion is the critical part to the foundation of your identity, how that identity has then developed is another thing.

PS that thread doesn't show and it only serves to humiliate yourself to whoever can see it haha.

100 years of isolation and there are Albanian women that have to sell their bodies for monetary profit, just as there are women of all ethnicities that unfortunately have to do just that. 200 years of spoonfeeding and being the golden boys of the west and neoGreek women have to sell their bodies for a sandwich. Holy fuck hahahaha. Albanian prostitutes after all that are still more expensive, now that's a creative insult lmao. Imagine how cheap Greek women have been historically if the price after all that development is now at a 2 dollar sandwich.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-time-low.html

[Queen B]

The Greeks today practice the same language as it was imposed on them to unite the Greek Orthodox citizens of Greece, it is not a result of ethnic continuity.

Too bad for you that you can actually FIND that Greek is a continious language, and not a language that re-appeared suddenly.

[Dianatomia]

Very well said, Macedonians as a sub branch of the Hellenic race inhabited the region from Pieria to Thessaloniki. All possessions north of this area were inhabited by non hellenic peoples.

This is not true. Directly north of the habitat of the Ancient Macedonians was Pelagonia which was inhabited by Molossians (a Greek Epirots tribe). A part of Pelagonia is today in FYROM. Ironically, the only Ancient Greek tribe which once inhabited a location within today's borders of FYROM are Molossian Greeks.

[Berahthraban]

Of course they have, why wouldn't they? It's not like they're 100% Slavic from North Eastern Europe