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    Quote Originally Posted by makedonec1 View Post
    The albanians of Macedonia immigrated in the last hundred years ..Don't forget that albanians have caucasian roots And of course we have ancient macedonian ancestry. However the north of Macedonia is really mixed up ,but southern Macedonia is really "clean".



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    Loki you should ask do Albanians in fyrom have ancient macedonian blood. :icon_wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrashNick View Post


    Macedonians noted as an one nation in a book about anti-Semitic persecutians in Russia ,1903

    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2009/...n-russia-1903/

    At this time Tito was a child

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    The violent struggle over historic Macedonia in the early 20th century was a conflict between two ethnicities, the Greeks and the Bulgarians. The Bulgarians wanted to claim northern Greece and expand their territory for a Greater Bulgaria. Back then, there was no such thing as ‘Macedonian’ ethnicity. That was constructed in the aftermath of World War II by communist leader Tito (who acted on the advice of Stalin). Fyrom's name was VARDARSKA well until Tito’s regime… He renamed it to “Macedonia” and started propagating and brainwashing the Bulgarian speaking population of the region that they are “Macedonians”… There was never a “Macedonian” ethnic group, the region was inhabited by mainly Greeks and Bulgarians each with their own distinctive culture.

    Tito's goal, backed by the Kremlin, was to annex areas of Greece and expand his communist superstate of Yugoslavia. So cunning was he that he had historiographers construct a warped view of the past that suited his territorial ambitions, he even went so far to devise a language called ‘Macedonian’ . Tito’s megalomanic aspirations are evidenced by maps he had created depicting a “united Macedonia” which included areas of Greek Macedonia in Thessaloniki and parts of Bulgaria, ancient Illyria and Thrace.

    The area known today officially as FYROM comprises Albanians and Bulgarians. The capital Skopje is located in the former Vardar Province which does NOT lie within the land that actually belonged to Phillip of Macedon. No matter how many statues are erected or flags are waved, you cannot change the fact that the capital now lies in a realm outside historic Macedonia.

    So, what’s in a name? The word Macedonian is a Greek word (of the ancient Koine dialect) meaning ‘highlander’. To those that deny that Macedonia was a Greek city state, then why did Alexander the Great choose to worship the Greek Gods? Why did his legions leave behind items of cultural heritage found from Egypt to the Hindus Valley baring Ancient Greek inscriptions? It is no coincidence that the symbol of the Vergina Sun – that Greece’s northern neighbour cheekily attempted to use on their flag in the 1990s, but were forced to change – had propped up not only on relics found in the area of historic Macedonia (northern Greece) but also throughout mainland Greece including Athens and the Peloponnese.

    To argue that the Macedonians are separate ethnic group today is as absurd as saying the Athenians are a separate race to those native to Peloponnese, Thessaloniki or the Crete. It is especially ridiculous when you consider that people of Slavic descent that inhabit the Fyrom region now actually settled there 1000 years after the death of Alexander the Great. But why is it they won’t acknowledge their own past?

    To those that think on simple terms, and ask “what’s in a name?” – Think not on face value but the deeper implications it brings to allow a neighbour to use your name. The theft of cultural heritage and the threat of territorial expansion based on misinformation.

    Vardaska is the true name of Fyrom. Vardaska is what was recognized internationally till 1945, before Tito’s schizophrenia took hold of all the Vardarski. The unprecedented massiv brainwashing about the ancestry of a whole country to be the direct descendants of the Greek Philipp and Alexander the Greatest, strongly refers to very powerful international centers with political, economical, cultural, even religious motives.

    As for the changing of names. who changed what? Skopjans call Thessaloniki as Solun, but what does Solun mean? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Do you know what Thessaloniki means in Greek? Thessalon-niki = victory over the Thessalians.

    The Greeks changed the names of many towns for the exact reason that the Irish changed the name of Kingstown back to its original name of Dun Laoghaire. So the original name of Thessaloniki replaced the Turkish version of Selanik.. Both nations were conquered and under a foreign occupation for centuries so naturally many names were changed over the years.. Or if you’d like for the exact reasons of why the Bulgarians changed the original name of Philippoupolis to Plodiv, and the Turks the name of Constantinople to Istabul.. To match their languages and culture

    And for the record, France blocked the UK’s accession in EEC, under the name Great Britain, in objection of “Britain” in the past, as it refers to “Brittany” a French region.

    check this out : http://www.macedoniahellenicland.eu/...75/76/lang,el/
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    Greeks and Albanians see what they want to see. I am letting them living in illusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    Greeks and Albanians see what they want to see. I am letting them living in illusions.
    Thats right brother, they are jelly of us the grandsons of Alexander the great and Gotce Delcev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I would be interested to hear your views/knowledge on this.
    Who else if not Modern Macedonians? Modern Greeks and Albanians surely not. Even the ancient were not related at all.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Arnaiz-Villena

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    Great question. Is there much DNA work on the subject?
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    Yes.

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    Yes, we have some ancient Macedonian ancestry. This has been proved in genetic studies, and is evident in our physical appearance.

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