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    How Vlachs people look to you?
    There were a lot of them in the Balkans,
    especially when Ottomans started to populate them everywhere as loyal servents .
    They are some sort of descendants of Romanized ancient people(Dacians, Thracians or whatever) with their specific language and had awareness of their uniqueness until just several centuries back, but then majority of them were assimilated by others.
    If we look at modern Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks nation, we know that most of Vlachs were
    assimilated by Serbs because Vlachs were Orthodox in most cases, but also Catholic Vlachs were assimilated by Croats and Vlachs who converted to Islam were assimilated by Bosniaks.
    If we talk about Bosnia, we even in medival Bosnia have Vlachs, they are mentioned as small minority.
    Later during Ottomans rule a lot of Vlachs come to Bosnia as Ottomans servents, and because more then 70% were Orthodox they were later assimilated in Serbs nation.
    Anyway, in Serbia today we have community of Vlachs people who still maintain their tradition( but they are pretty much same as Serbs with everything), and I will post photos of them.
    What interests me do you see some specificity in their look, or they with probably mixing with Slavs in some time in history losed their
    characteristics, and they also now look just like others South Slavic people here?





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    their proper name is armanji - aromanians. vlach is a wrongly used term with a different meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verchar View Post
    their proper name is armanji - aromanians. vlach is a wrongly used term with a different meaning.
    Some dont call themsevles Aromani but Ungureni, Munteni and Bufeni. Today, about three quarters of the Vlach population in Serbia speak the Ungurean subdialect. Some authors consider that the majority of Vlachs in Serbia are descendants of Romanians that migrated from Hungary in the 18th and 19th centuries hence the name Ungureni. Term Vlach also meant "bandit" or "rebel" in the Ottoman historiography. In Slavic it means Romance speaker.

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    in slavic-speaking regions where vlach lifestyle has been present, the term means shepherd.
    it retains its meaning as "romance speaker" or "italian" only in regions where shepherdry (vlach lifestyle) has been alien.

    in extremely nationalistic environment of balkans it acquired a specific ethnic meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verchar View Post
    in slavic-speaking regions where vlach lifestyle has been present, the term means shepherd.
    it retains its meaning as "romance speaker" or "italian" only in regions where shepherdry (vlach lifestyle) has been alien.

    in extremely nationalistic environment of balkans it acquired a specific ethnic meaning.
    In Serbia it still means Romance speaker. Poles call Italy Wlachy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Alexander Louis View Post
    In Serbia it still means Romance speaker. Poles call Italy Włochy.
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    Overall a good-looking people, they look generically SE European, being mostly Pontid. Some of them could pass a little westwards, maybe in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verchar View Post
    it retains its meaning as "romance speaker" or "italian" only in regions where shepherdry (vlach lifestyle) has been alien.
    Shepherdry isn't alien here yet Vlach here means Romanised population before the Slavic migration.
    Interestingly, Vlahi/Lahi also means Italians in our language.

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    I'm far from expert in ethnology, but I think that I can recognize obvious Vlachs elements in traditional costumes of Bosniaks in some specific areas.


    Although there were different groups of Vlachs, with special name and customs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Overall a good-looking people, they look generically SE European, being mostly Pontid. Some of them could pass a little westwards, maybe in Italy.
    They are not uniform in phenotype, black swan is trying to troll by posting Serbs. These are also Vlachs in Serbia







    This video says that the Celts were the first to use the term Vlach or Welsh in the Balkans


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