Do you consider the Komi people of Arctic Russia to be European/White?

[coolfrenchguy]

mais oui bien sûr

great progress in french as i see,
komi what is it? another life form from outer space,and they haven't tell us,no more seriously for sure there white and more than twice than one at 90% because like the suomis you could find some asian/mongol admixture in the farest regions in the forest,they are more nenets,but for the more urban ones they are closed of the karelians or the vesps,i think
but it's quite harsh because there is the trap:

Subgroups


Komi-Zyrians
Komi of the Izhma River
Komi-Permyaks
Komi of the Yazva River
Komi of the Upper Kama River (Zyuzdino or Afanasyevo), nearly fully assimilated



Komi people are divided into two main groups and several smaller subgroups. The Komi have been traditionally named after the rivers where they live:

• Komi-Zyrians^[18]
  
  • Komi-Izhma of the Izhma River (Komi reindeer herders)
    
    • Komi of the Kola Peninsula
    • Komi of Nenets Autonomous Okrug
    • Komi of the Lower Ob and Lyapin Rivers
    
    
  • Komi of the Vashka and Mezen Rivers
  • Komi of the Vym River
  • Komi of the Lower Ob River
  • Komi of the Pechora River
  • Komi of the Vychegda River
  • Komi of the Sysola River
  • Komi of the Letka and Luza Rivers
  
  
• Komi-Permyaks
  
  • Komi of the Yazva River
  • Komi of the Upper Kama River (nearly fully assimilated into Russians)

[coolfrenchguy]

The miscegenation between komis and russians must be high, in 2002 census there were 293.406 Komi-Zyrians and 125.235 komi-permyaks, their numbers in 2010 census were 228.235 and 94.456 respectfully. All this fall, really big, must be mixed people that opted by the option "russian" in census. Komis are only 1/3 of the population on its own republic.

Here there´s a genetic study: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0058552





Komis are as far from the european central genetic point the same as finns.

So the question should be, "Do you consider the Finns to be European White?"

dude does she looks african to you?,finn olympic game winner kiira korpi,not really swarthy or eurasian

[Laag]

Komis are as far from the european central genetic point the same as finns.

So the question should be, "Do you consider the Finns to be European White?"

Sure.
Finnish girl

Spoiler!

Komi girl

Spoiler!

So the question should be, "Do the Komi and Finns consider South Europeans to be European White?"

[coolfrenchguy]

this is getting better and better
how's going krivich? all good?

kebab people ,a new ethnic group as been discovered great advance for anthropology , i will right now in a sec call yves coppens and inform him of this fantastic discovery

if you are allergic to kebab i recommand you gyros/γύρος / yýros,definetly more european or even the libanese chawarmas,fallafels or the armenian keftes,even the vegan ones,it's more tasty and digest

[Jana]

Brown people all look the same and they look gross.

The morphs below are of players in the CEV Women's Volleyball European Championship 2019. The "Balkans", "Not Europe", and "Southern" morphs all look the same:

Stupid, why di you include genetically and ethnically unrelated populations into Balkan ?
Slovenians are closer genetically to Finns than to Albanians, just using one example.
But I think you are gross.

[Duffmannn]

Sure.
Finnish girl

Spoiler!

Komi girl

Spoiler!

So the question should be, "Do the Komi and Finns consider South Europeans to be European White?"

The spaniards invented the term white to define themselves in opposition to other peoples.

You can consider yourselves whatever other colour.

Purple, for example.

[Blondie]

Slovenians are closer genetically to Finns than to Albanians

They are between finns and albanians on half way:

[Tigranes]

Turanid

[Laag]

All those plots make sense in the Internet only. Irl the Komi and Finns will be considered as "White" and "European" in any European country while many Southen Europeans will be considered as alien race in many countries above 50 parallel.

[Finnish Swede]

I wonder will people here keep one or both of these as ''Europeans''?




And if they are't/are ... what that decision bases for?

Ok ... I see ... nobody answered to this. So I will not either....
If one still looked photos carefully enough he/she might have noticed a light/white line above the eye (other bird) .... one which another bird doesn't have. For us/humans that is the most easiest way to separate these from each others. They have probable much more ways to do it...

Ok ... personally I think we should separate terms: European and possible European race person (classified by humans).

For me it is difficult to accept though that some people/ethnic which has developed inside of Europe (west side of Ural mountains) ... would not be Europeans. No matter how they look. Same principle is used with all the animals we have in Europe.
Ok, I can accept opposite idea, if we one day will start to think that Europe ends to somewhere like St. Petersburg area. But I doubt that as our continent is Eurasian continent ... and Ural mountains have born exactly then tectonic plate (Europe) and tectonic plate (Asia) have crashed to each others (long long time ago).
So I keep Komi people Europeans, as I keep Sami people Europeans etc. If they are not Europeans, needs to ask what they are? Plus if we think that they are not Europeans, we (or somebodies) are not far to say also .... they have not much rights to be in Europe either. Which I think .... is fully BS.
Totally another matter is will these Komi people belong to so called ''Caucasoid European race''? Not to talking about being Indo-Europeans or Aryans. Those should be determinated by their phenotypes & genetics.