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Thread: Do you consider the Komi people of Arctic Russia to be European/White?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    There are many turks and gypsies in Bulgaria.
    No i don't mean Gypsies

    I mean normal Bulgarians who are not of Gypsy origin but still they look sometimes like people from the Caucasus,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Balkan ancestry autosomaly for South Slavs is from one half to one third on average.
    Balkan ancestry is not genetically the same as Greeks, those were different people.
    It’s more sensical to determine that with ancient populations rather than modern ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDorian View Post
    No i don't mean Gypsies

    I mean normal Bulgarians who are not of Gypsy origin but still they look sometimes like people from the Caucasus,
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    Yes, there is overlap between some Bulgarians and some Georgians. Gypsies don't look Caucasus at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Balkan ancestry autosomaly for South Slavs is from one half to one third on average.
    Balkan ancestry is not genetically the same as Greeks, those were different people.
    I know that they weren't the same. But located very close geographically. Well, mountains can be a big obstacle for genetic fusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    The spaniards invented the term white to define themselves in opposition to other peoples.

    You can consider yourselves whatever other colour.

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    According to the 2011 National Population and Housing Census, 43.6% of the population identified themselves as white people.[1] A genomic study shows that about 61.5% of the Venezuelan gene pool has European origin.
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    It seems you misunderstand the word white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    It’s more sensical to determine that with ancient populations rather than modern ones.
    Werent ancient Greeks possible more northern shifted that today, while Balkan people had possible northern input? Remember that Thracian Bulgarian sample similar to modern Baltic people?

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    In fact, the vast majority of Komi do not live in the Arctic only some of them.
    The real Arctic people are the Nenets most of them live beyond the Arctic circle. And many of them live in the northeasternmost part of Europe. They are native people there thus we can say that they are the northeasternmost Europeans.

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    non EU Europeans mostly

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    Europe is a geographical term, the European Union is a political organization. Culturally and historically for Western Europeans Europe ended on the Oder. All native peoples living in Europe are Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laag View Post
    Nenets are native Europeans they live in the northeasternmost part of Europe. Some people claimed that they are not Europeans.
    Actually they live in the northeasternmost part of continental Europe, because Franz Josef Land and Novaya Zemlya are also part of Europe. (Even though there's still a few Nenetses who live in Novaya Zemlya too.)

    BTW, the word "Zemlya" (land) is likely a cognate of the word Suomi, which is given the following etymology by Wiktionary: "from *šāma-, from Proto-Balto-Slavic *źemē ("ground"), from Proto-Indo-European *dʰéǵʰōm". I.e. "Novaya Zemlya = New Land = New Suomi = New Finland". Therefore once the Jews melt down the poles and the arctic islands become more hospitable, I think Finland should have a claim to Novaya Zemlya, and we can establish the colony of New Finland there.

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