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    Default African and Mongoloid admixture in Europe ( what's mostly responsible for it? )

    Can someone explain what's mostly responsible for the non-caucasoid admixture. If there is minor South Asian admixture in Europe than it's very obvious that it was due to Gypsies... no question about that one.

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    The African admixture in Southern Europe. Was it mostly due to Moorish rule or mostly due to Sub Saharan slaves brought by European ? ( The African admixture here includes Caucasoid North Africa and Negroid SSA )



    The Mongoloid admixture in Southern Europe. Was it mostly due to the Ottoman or the previous Turkic invaders or something else? I believe North/East Europe was due Uralic with possibly minor Turkic so I don't need to know that one.


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    Bump.

    Can some please explain how these admixtures became part of modern European. I really hope it's not because of some rape or mixing with slave women that kind of thing because you know the Moors and Ottoman weren't exactly kind males.

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    Some of the SSA came via proxy of the Moors yes, well some of it was due to the Roman slave trade.
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    maybe because of the many mongoloid hordes that settled many times around ukraine. ukraine never was part of Ottoman empire but has many east asian admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Some of the SSA came via proxy of the Moors yes, well some of it was due to the Roman slave trade.
    What about the the slave trade of SSA people?

    The Portuguese have like 8% mtDNA L

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussiaPrussia View Post
    maybe because of the many mongoloid hordes that settled many times around ukraine. ukraine never was part of Ottoman empire but has many east asian admixture.
    Actually Ukraine was under Ottoman rule as well. Ukrainian have 1 - 2.5% East Asian on that map but this isn't strange since Turkish have 5 - 18.5% Mongoloid DNA but I don't think Ukranian is from Ottoman is properly from Turkic or Uralic.

    Most of Balkan was never under previous Turkic rule apart from Ottoman so I believe it was from Ottoman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    Actually Ukraine was under Ottoman rule as well. Ukrainian have 1 - 2.5% East Asian on that map but this isn't strange since Turkish have 5 - 18.5% Mongoloid DNA but I don't think Ukranian is from Ottoman is properly from Turkic or Uralic.

    Most of Balkan was never under previous Turkic rule apart from Ottoman so I believe it was from Ottoman.

    yeah but it was longer under scythians and khazar control than ottomoman rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    What about the the slave trade of SSA people?

    The Portuguese have like 8% mtDNA L
    I don't think this correlates with slave trade:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    I don't think this correlates with slave trade:

    How do you explain this?

    In a sample of 542 Portuguese people from all over the country, sub-Saharan mtDNA L sequences were detected at a frequency of ~5% (2.2 in the North, 4.3 in the Center, and 8.6 in the South). This gives the Portuguese an estimated total of 2.5% Negroid ancestry, which ranges from a comparatively large, but not racially significant, 4.3% in the South to a mere 1.1% in the North. (González et al. 2003)


    In Turkey is obviously because of the Nubian slave women. Ottoman brought million of slaves from Caucasus, Balkans, East Africa and the Afro-Turks descent from the Nubian slaves.

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    In Turkey it's Greeks and Albanian immigrants.
    My ancestry is from extreme north part.
    Fully clean from SSA.

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