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  • Should be allowed if they are no open about it

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    US president reiterates promise to revoke 'don't ask, don't tell' policy in address to gay rights group ahead of Washington march

    Barrack Obama reaffirmed an "unwavering" commitment to end discrimination against gay people, including the ban on openly serving in the military, on the eve of a protest march through Washington today to demand the president fulfil election commitments to equal rights.

    An emphatic speech to the US's largest gay advocacy group, the Human Rights Campaign, yesterday, that also included a commitment to pass hate crimes legislation, was greeted with a standing ovation. But there was scepticism from some activists frustrated at the lack of a timetable on reform of the military and Obama's failure to take up any major gay rights issues in his first months in office.

    "I appreciate that many of you don't believe progress has come fast enough ... Do not doubt the direction we are heading and the destination we will reach," said Obama.

    "My expectation is that when you look back on these years, you will see a time in which we put a stop to discrimination against gays and lesbians, whether in the office or on the battlefield. You will see a time in which we as a nation finally recognise relationships between two men or two women as just as real and admirable as relationships between a man and a woman."

    The president's speech came the evening before today's National Equalities march past the White House to Capitol Hill to press demands for immediate reforms, particularly of military policy and the scrapping of the Defence of Marriage Act, which was passed to block official recognition of gay marriages.

    Obama said the policy of "don't ask, don't tell", which allows gay people to serve in the armed forces provided they didn't tell anyone of their sexual orientation, was unjust.

    "We should not be punishing patriotic Americans who have stepped forward to serve the country," he said. "We should be celebrating their willingness to step forward and show such courage."

    The current policy was compromise introduced in 1993 when President Bill Clinton was unable to get the military to accept openly gay service men and women. Obama will face some resistance from Republicans and some members of the military but there is much wider acceptance of gays openly serving in the US forces than 16 years ago.

    However, there is likely to be greater resistance to repealing the Defence of Marriage Act.

    A Democratic party senator, Robert Casey, who is co-sponsor of legislation against hate crimes and who supports scrapping discrimination in the military, said he could not support abolishment of the act.
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    Sorry, but I can't use the both words in one sentence. Gays can only perform as cabaret singers and entertainers during war time...
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    I don't see them as good fighters and warriors, like Tabiti said.
    It's never too early to start beefing up your obituary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabiti View Post
    Sorry, but I can't use the both words in one sentence. Gays can only perform as cabaret singers and entertainers during war time...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dronckaert View Post
    I don't see them as good fighters and warriors, like Tabiti said.
    Many homosexuals are not as effeminate as the ones that immediately spring to mind when someone mentions "gays".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seuthanan View Post
    Many homosexuals are not as effeminate as the ones that immediately spring to mind when someone mentions "gays".
    Yes, there are "male" ones but who heterosexual wants to deal with them when he's not sure about his back?
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    I don't see the connection between military and sexuality, hence voted "Should always be allowed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabiti View Post
    Yes, there are "male" ones but who heterosexual wants to deal with them when he's not sure about his back?
    Are talking about in combat or about homosexual sex here? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seuthanan View Post
    Are talking about in combat or about homosexual sex here? haha
    Is there a difference?
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    I think they should be allowed, but there should not be any special treatment either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't see the connection between military and sexuality, hence voted "Should always be allowed".
    The point is... gays in the military are very often discriminated, and it's and euphemism. Most of them keep their sexual preference for themselves.
    It's never too early to start beefing up your obituary.

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