Classifying Y-DNA into races and ethnic groups

[ButlerKing]

But Finns have 58% N1c, and the majority of them still look Caucasoid. Are there any pure Mongoloid ethnic groups with high amounts of N?

15 testes samples


10 samples are = 100% pure Mongoloid /Siberian

1 Sample = 100% Mongoloid with different Siberian admixture

2 sample = a mixture of different Mongoloid Siberian groups with small Caucasoid admixture

2 Sample = a mixture of different Mongoloid siberian groups with 36% Caucasoid admixture.


Nganassan are pure Siberian Mongoloid, there is another study that gives them 5% R1a and 14% Caucasoid maternal DNA but that's it

[Fire Haired]

Caucasoid Y-DNA




J1 semetic and Caucasus
J2 Semetic, Near eastern, Caucasus

R1b West Europeans
R1a East Europeans, Central Asians, South Asians

I North Europeans
G South Caucasus


Mongoloid

O3 Mongoloid Sino-Tibetan
O1 Mongoloid Austronesians
O2a Mongoloid Austro-Asiatic
O2b Mongoloid Northeast Asian


C3 Mongoloid Mongolic and South Siberian

D1 Mongoloid Tibetan and Tibeto-burmese
D3a Mongoloid Tibetan and Tibeto-burmese

Q Mongoloid Siberian

N Mongoloid north Siberian




Negroid


A Negroid Bantu-African
B Negroid Bantu African
Eb1a Negroid African

It is alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot

more ccomlicated than that. People inter marry throughout history orignally R1a and R1b father R1 was Mongliod. Y DNA is just a direct male line. Aust dna is what u should look at for more specfic stuff on human families it goes off austume chromosomes not just y chromosome.

click here

[ButlerKing]

It is alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot alot

more ccomlicated than that. People inter marry throughout history orignally R1a and R1b father R1 was Mongliod. Y DNA is just a direct male line. Aust dna is what u should look at for more specfic stuff on human families it goes off austume chromosomes not just y chromosome.

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Are you insane or out of your head? R1a and R1b was Mongoloid?????

Although you're right that Y-DNA is just a direct male line but one can see West Europeans are 100% Caucasoid with more than 60-80% R1b

[Anglojew]

Why do you think ancient Qs were Mongoloid?

[Smeagol]

Why do you think ancient Qs were Mongoloid?

There are pure Mongoloid populations with haplogroup Q so he's probably right. I used to believe it was Caucasoid though.

[Maleficent]

Caucasoid Y-DNA




J1 semetic and Caucasus
J2 Semetic, Near eastern, Caucasus

R1b West Europeans
R1a East Europeans, Central Asians, South Asians

I North Europeans
G South Caucasus

You forgot E1b1b, which is also very essential Caucasoid ydna.

This is a much better breakdown from Eupedia:

[ButlerKing]

Why do you think ancient Qs were Mongoloid?

Because this DNA reaches 100% in Native American tribes in South America and still have 0% European or Caucasian admixture

[riverman]

Finns are about 1/16 Mongoloid. Still there but not enough to make them nonwhite.

Wow, I don't think I'm even 1/16 german

[ButlerKing]

You forgot E1b1b, which is also very essential Caucasoid ydna.

This is a much better breakdown from Eupedia:

Listen I'm confused too. Eb1b1 is higher in East Africa although genetics that shows they have 40% Caucasoid DNA

[Prisoner Of Ice]

E is not caucasian it is levantine/na

Because this DNA reaches 100% in Native American tribes in South America and still have 0% European or Caucasian admixture

So does the r1a in north america that came from the west. When you have uniform y-dna and small groups you soak up aDNA but keep Y-DNA homogenous due to genetic drift. That is you add small amounts of y-dna to a group of a thousand it trickles out fast. Add it to a million it trickles out slow.

Q and R are brothers and come from the same source so this can't happen but in fantasy land. There's no mongol to them originally.