Classify some "strange" looking Norwegians

[Rouxinol]

But how do you know all Saami were originally Lappid?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...3/?tool=pubmed

If they were really so mixed with Germanics they would cluster close to them.

But do you have proof? Also, remember Even the Lappid phenotype is not pure Mongoloid.

I don't mean they are mixed with Germanics to the point of being indistinguishable (phenotypically and genotypically), very far from it. My arguing since the beginning is that they are less Lappid than they were before because many of them are sufficiently mixed to dispose traits such as blondism (blond hair and light eyes). How would you explain that some of them look more "ethnic" than others? And of course this doesn't necessarily mean that genotipically they would have to cluster closer to Germanics. Going by their phenotypes most of them retain physical traits that are clearly un-Germanic and rather Lappid-influenced which are readily distinguishable. For the most part they look nothing like North Germanic Scandinavians. Such as the sample below:



This is just my reasoning in response to your statement:

Okay, but the majority just look like other Scandinavians.

[sevruk]

These strange Norwegians not look Sami. There are other pictures where Norwegians look Sami

[Roy]

These strange Norwegians not look Sami. There are other pictures where Norwegians look Sami

Of course they don't and they're not.

[Immanenz]

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looks like a failed "Proto" Nordid,

(just bumping to get a few laughs/ bad explanations)

[Veslan]

Some bad explanations on my part for Immanenz:
1. His skull is clearly deformed. Impossible to classify, though mid face implies failed Tronder (very far-fetched guess)
2. Tydal, partially dinarized.
3. Lappid + Atlantic (weird mix, but somewhat curly hair, narrow face and skull imply the latter admixture)
4. Tydal + Lappid

I have an urge to make similiar thread on weird Polish plates, probably going to be fun lol.

[Immanenz]

Some bad explanations on my part for Immanenz:
1. His skull is clearly deformed. Impossible to classify, though mid face implies failed Tronder (very far-fetched guess)
2. Tydal, partially dinarized.
3. Lappid + Atlantic (weird mix, but somewhat curly hair, narrow face and skull imply the latter admixture)
4. Tydal + Lappid

I have an urge to make similiar thread on weird Polish plates, probably going to be fun lol.

i do not see anything Tydal, nor Lappid or sm. else Troender is as usual the excuse because he looks fucked up, but he does not have more Cm traits than your regular Hallstatt Nordid. And Hallstatt absorbed a bit " Centraleuropean Gracile Med-Dinaric" acc. to Coon, thats why it can be grouped in Iron Age type class along with the Keltic Nordics. I would say either some deformation or Neanderthal genes showing

There were Mesolitihic EHG skulls who were prognatic, and you find that sometimes from time to time in indviduals as well in modern times.

[Veslan]

i do not see anything Tydal, nor Lappid or sm. else Troender is as usual the excuse because he looks fucked up, but he does not have more Cm traits than your regular Hallstatt Nordid. And Hallstatt absorbed a bit " Centraleuropean Gracile Med-Dinaric" acc. to Coon, thats why it can be grouped in Iron Age type class along with the Keltic Nordics. I would say either some deformation or Neanderthal genes showing

There were Mesolitihic EHG skulls who were prognatic, and you find that sometimes from time to time in indviduals as well in modern times.

2 and 4 are quite clearly dark-pigmented Cromagnoid types.

2 has a pseudo-Atlanto-Med look at first glance, but his nose and face are too wide, he is also somewhat dinarized. Maybe Dinarized Paleo-Atlantic would be a better classification.
4 is predominantly Tydal, but flattened face and excessive fat on cheeks imply Lappid influence

1 is deformed, my Tronder guess is based on mid face which is rather wide, but I agree that this man seems predominantly Nordic

In 3 I thought Lappid influence was obvious, notice: partially flattened occipit, flattened face, mongoloid-like nasal bridge. He is also somewhat prognathic, which although as you have noticed is not purely mongoloid trait, could be Lappid derived here. The rest of traits are Atlantic.

[Token]

i do not see anything Tydal, nor Lappid or sm. else Troender is as usual the excuse because he looks fucked up, but he does not have more Cm traits than your regular Hallstatt Nordid. And Hallstatt absorbed a bit " Centraleuropean Gracile Med-Dinaric" acc. to Coon, thats why it can be grouped in Iron Age type class along with the Keltic Nordics. I would say either some deformation or Neanderthal genes showing

There were Mesolitihic EHG skulls who were prognatic, and you find that sometimes from time to time in indviduals as well in modern times.

His moderate alveolar prognathism is clearly pathological though because it accompanies a mandible that is recessed in relation to the incisura frontal, which is a orthodontic problem caused by chronic mouth-breathing and/or shitty eating habits. Neanderthals as well as certain Proto-Europids were strongly alveolar-pronathic, but completely lacked the pathologically recessed mandible. Orthodontic pathologies can cause severe mid-facial deformation like we see in this individual.

Overall, his cranial dimensions conform Nordic norms. There are incredibly ugly Nordics as much as there are incredibly ugly Mediterraneans.

[Immanenz]

2 and 4 are quite clearly dark-pigmented Cromagnoid types.

2 has a pseudo-Atlanto-Med look at first glance, but his nose and face are too wide, he is also somewhat dinarized. Maybe Dinarized Paleo-Atlantic would be a better classification.
4 is predominantly Tydal, but flattened face and excessive fat on cheeks imply Lappid influence

1 is deformed, my Tronder guess is based on mid face which is rather wide, but I agree that this man seems predominantly Nordic

In 3 I thought Lappid influence was obvious, notice: partially flattened occipit, flattened face, mongoloid-like nasal bridge. He is also somewhat prognathic, which although as you have noticed is not purely mongoloid trait, could be Lappid derived here. The rest of traits are Atlantic.

Altight i did not get you- you classified the other guys too

[Hektor12]

Strange looking Norwegian? Here you go..