Why do Jewish members think ancient Jews were white?

[daedal1]

Some people have described me as 'central european', seems a little vague to me tbh, I don't think we can just generalize looks like that, Europeans and levantines etc. are related peoples/

Levantines are more related to egyptians/bedouins than they are to most europeans, as you can see. So, it's vice versa, *some* europeans are related to Levantines. Finns are also related to uralic people, but not vice versa either.

[Anglojew]

Read the document. They were both called barbarians, however germanics were more respected in the sense that they were still fellow europeans, and technically even more european in the sense that they had less exotic elements. Anti-Semitism against Jews and Phoenicians was also rife. It was on an ethnic basis, rather than religious.

Yes, and those near easterners/anatolians are the original non-european foreign asiatics and they were chastized as such.

What does that picture have to do with whiteness? All it means is that there were different races.

This theory makes no sense. Greeks and Phoenicians had ancient cultural ties (including the introduction of the Alphabet to Greece from Phoenicia). The theory is wrong for many reasons but the biggest evidence of which is that Hellenism eg the Greek cultural, military and population expansion took place across the Near East to Persia and not in Germany.

[ariel]

Levantines are more related to egyptians/bedouins than they are to most europeans, as you can see. So, it's vice versa, *some* europeans are related to Levantines. Finns are also related to uralic people, but not vice versa either.

you just a troll who saying again and again the same bullshit.

[Sblast]

Should be posted under the sub-forum Judaism, not Israel.
(And who cares is they were white or Semitic?).

[daedal1]

you just a troll who saying again and again the same bullshit.

Nope, you're a troll who doesn't understand what you're talking about. That study did not conduct any surveys on cypriots, tuscans, etc. It uses the same exact data from the other study, which shows cypriots as being closer to the near eastern cluster and also egyptians+bedoins than they are to most europeans. Likewise, just because Iranians are Western Asians doesn't mean that they are closer to Germans than they are to Palestinians. Even Turks/Georgians (who are closer to c. euros than levantines are) are still genetically closer to Egyptians than they are to British/Irish.

[ariel]

nope, you're a troll who doesn't understand what you're talking about. That study did not conduct any surveys on cypriots, tuscans, etc. It uses the same exact data from the other study, which shows cypriots as being closer to the near eastern cluster and also egyptians+bedoins than they are to most europeans. Likewise, just because iranians are western asians doesn't mean that they are closer to germans than they are to palestinians. Even turks/georgians (who are closer to c. Euros than levantines are) are still genetically closer to egyptians than they are to british/irish.

this study are very serious.they used 1341 samples.how many samples used in your map?

In this study we analyze more than 500,000 genome-wide SNPs in 1,341 new samples from the Levant and compare them to samples from 48 populations worldwide

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/...l.pgen.1003316

In order to assess the population structure of Levantine populations more generally, an MDS (Figure 2) and a normalized principle component analysis (PCA) (Figure S2) plots with 48 additional Old World populations (Table S1) were built

[daedal1]

This theory makes no sense. Greeks and Phoenicians had ancient cultural ties (including the introduction of the Alphabet to Greece from Phoenicia). The theory is wrong for many reasons but the biggest evidence of which is that Hellenism eg the Greek cultural, military and population expansion took place across the Near East to Persia and not in Germany.

The Arabic numeral system is based on the Indian numeral system, the doesn't imply any sympathies there. That's because the Near East had more loot than the Germanic lands. It was a business decision. However, it was understood that they were europeans who ultimately had similar origins as other europeans.

http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot...-and-jews.html

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/p...icianTrait.htm

http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot...-and-jews.html

[ariel]

BTW YOU ARE ALIAR CYPRIOTS NOT PURE LEVANTINES AND MIXED WITH ARABS AND EGYPTIANS.

THE PUREST LEVANTINES ARE SYRIAN ALAWITES AND THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE EGYPTIANS OR BEDOUINS

[daedal1]

this study are very serious.they used 1341 samples.how many samples used in your map?

In this study we analyze more than 500,000 genome-wide SNPs in 1,341 new samples from the Levant and compare them to samples from 48 populations worldwide

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/...l.pgen.1003316

In order to assess the population structure of Levantine populations more generally, an MDS (Figure 2) and a normalized principle component analysis (PCA) (Figure S2) plots with 48 additional Old World populations (Table S1) were built

That study uses original samples of lebanese, NOT CYPRIOTS, TUSCANS, etc. Both studies use the same sources for data regarding cypriots, etc. All this study shows is that lebanese christians are intermediate BETWEEN cypriots and druze, while lebanese/syrian muslims are between druze and bedouins. If you segregated the lebanese cluster into lebanese christians and muslims, cypriots would still place the EXACT same as they do on the map. You do realize that the study you constantly reference doesn't use ANY original data on palestinians, bedouins, etc. right? It's all based on the SAME HGDP data.

[daedal1]

BTW YOU ARE ALIAR CYPRIOTS NOT PURE LEVANTINES AND MIXED WITH ARABS AND EGYPTIANS.

THE PUREST LEVANTINES ARE SYRIAN ALAWITES AND THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE EGYPTIANS OR BEDOUINS

Cypriots are mixed with arabs and egyptians? Now this is hilarious. You are clearly 100% trolling here. Where did the arab/egyptian blood in cypriots come from? Cypriots are even closer to europeans (and therefore have less arab blood) than lebanese christians are according to that study. Cyprus was never even arabized, it was hellenized, unlike alawis who identify as 'arabs' and always have.