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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimiera View Post
    The Princess of Ukok is not related to any of the Asian races, the scientists are convinced. She is not related, evidently, to the present day inhabitants of Altai. Moreover, she had a European appearance, it has been claimed.

    'There was a moment of gross misunderstanding when a legend came about this mummy being a foremother of people of Altai,' said Molodin.

    'The people of Pazyryk belonged to different ethnic group, in no way related to Altaians. Genetic studies showed that the Pazyryks were a part of Samoyedic family, with elements of Iranian-Caucasian substratum.'

    So perhaps more Samoyedic than Scythian.

    'We tried to overcome the misunderstanding, but sadly it didn't work.'
    Well that doesn't make much sense because Samoyeds are an Asian race indigenous to Siberia.

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    I wonder of she has a tramp-stamp?
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    I think this is what the original Haplogroup Q's looked like.
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    How fascinating. The tattoos are quite beautiful.

    Sidenote: I can imagine tattoo enthusiasts taking the images to a tattoo parlor to be used as a reference or even copied image by image.

    Great post Kazimiera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    Well that doesn't make much sense because Samoyeds are an Asian race indigenous to Siberia.
    Now and only a part of the Samoyeds, but their ancestors lived on the forest-steppe and the taiga in the antiquity and the Selkups and Kamassians today. And they were much more Europo-Mongolid before the Turko-Mongol era, than everybody in Asia.



    An the ancient Samoyeds, than the Ugrians were the parts of the steppic Iranian cultural horizont.

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    I found some bright spark's article that said HER haplogroup is R1a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimiera View Post

    The Altai authorities have now declared the remote mountain area from where the princess and her kinsmen were buried as a 'zone of peace' where no more excavations will take place, despite the near-certain treasures lying in the permafrost.

    Such work amounts to plundering, they believe.

    To Molodin, who found the male mummy several years after the princess, this deprives the world of a valuable scientific inheritance. He argues, too, that the issue is critical since global warming means the ancient bodies will decay.

    Scientists reckon there are thousands of burial mounds here, hundreds of which date to the Pazyryk period, many of which may contain answers to questions about where we come from.
    This I find unfortunate but its a problem that plagues archaeology all over the world: the contemporary populations' cultural concerns applied to past cultural horizons (that may or may not directly relate to them) ultimately trumping scientific inquiry. Truthfully, if archaeologists don't get to sites first, far worse people will. There is indeed valuable information we can learn from such pasts and preservation isn't always guaranteed by deeming the area a "hands off zone".
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    The part that's annoying is generally the people making a stink are ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BURIED and often do it just to keep that fact hidden. No chumash for example, was in "chumash" lands 500 years ago but they have demanded the return of some 5k year old skeletons to be reburied on their reservation.

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    Face of tattooed mummified princess finally revealed after 2,500 years

    Source: http://siberiantimes.com/science/cas...er-2500-years/

    Taxidermy expert uses painstaking techniques to create first ever replica of the ice maiden found preserved in the Siberian high altitude plateau.


    'One of the most significant archaeological discoveries of the 20th century'. Picture: The Siberian Times

    The first replica face has been created of the famous tattooed Siberian princess found mummified and preserved after almost 2,500 years in permafrost. A Swiss expert has used special taxidermy techniques to build an accurate reconstruction of the ice maiden who was uncovered by archaeologists in 1993.

    Known as Princess Ukok, after the high altitude plateau on which she was discovered, her body was decorated in the best-preserved, and most elaborate, ancient art ever found. While her discovery was exciting, particularly given how intact her remains were, her face and neck skin had deteriorated, with no real clue as to what she once looked like.

    However, now her face has been revealed to the world for the first time following the work by Swiss taxidermist Marcel Nyffenegger.

    Mr Nyffenegger, who lives in the small town of Schaffhausen, was asked to work on a likeness of Princess Ukok for the Historical Museum of the Palatinate in Speyer, Germany. While he has expertise in stuffing animals, his main passion is the reconstruction of the faces of ancient peoples, including the Neanderthals.

    Working with a 3-D model of the mummy’s skull, he spent a month painstakingly piecing together her facial muscles and tissue layers as well as reconstructing her skin structure, eyes and expression.

    The resulting plasticine model was then covered with silicone and a rubber-resin mixture before finer details such as eyebrows and eyelashes were added. More than 100,000 individual strands of hair were used to give the princess her flocking locks, a process that in itself took two whole weeks.

    'That two weeks took me to the brink of insanity', the expert confessed. 'I didn’t spend more than two or three hours a day on that part because it was very boring and neck pain literally forced me to do something else'.




    The reconstruction of Princess Ukok is on display at the museum in Germany. Pictures: Marcel Nyffenegger

    The mummy was excavated by Novosibirsk scientist Natalia Polosmak and was heralded as 'one of the most significant archaeological discoveries of the 20th century'.

    Thought to be about 25 years old when she died, she was found preserved in permafrost in the Altai Mountains at an altitude of about 2,500 metres, with two men also discovered nearby. Buried around her were six horses, saddled and bridled and said to have been her spiritual escorts to the next world, along with a meal of sheep and horse meat.

    Archaeologists also found ornaments made from felt, wood, bronze and gold as well as a small container of cannabis and a stone plate on which coriander seeds were burned. From her clothes and possessions including a 'cosmetics bag', scientists were able to recreate her fashion and beauty secrets.

    She was dressed in a long shirt made from Chinese silk, and had long felt sleeve boots with a beautiful decoration on them. At this time Chinese silk was only ever found in royal burials of the Pazyrk people, and since it was more expensive than gold it gave an indication of her wealth and status.

    Her head was completely shaved, and she wore a horse hair wig on top of which was a carving of a wooden deer.

    The princess’s face and neck skin was not preserved, but the skin of her left arm survived. The most exciting discovery was her elaborate body art, which many observers said bore striking similarities to modern-day tattoos. On her left shoulder was a fantastical mythological animal made up of a deer with a griffon’s beak and a Capricorn’s antlers. The antlers themselves were decorated with the heads of griffons.

    The mouth of a spotted panther with a long tail could also be seen, and she had a deer’s head on her wrist.




    'The face is very accurate to how Princess Ukok actually looked'. Pictures: The Siberian Times, Marcel Nyffenegger

    She is believed to have been between 25 and 28 years old and about 1.62 metres tall. Her remains were treated by the same scientists in Moscow who preserved the body of former Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin. Being able to see what she once looked like is an exciting development for archaeologists and historians.

    Marcel, whose Twitter account features images of his reconstructions of Neanderthal man, said he believes the face is very accurate to how Princess Ukok actually looked. He said: 'With such a soft tissue reconstruction, purely based on the bone structure, we have achieved an accuracy of 75 per cent of the former appearance of the woman. The remaining 25 per cent was our interpretation since, for example, we were missing parts of the nasal bone and thus an accurate reconstruction was not possible.

    'The scull itself shows where the muscles were located and which form and thickness they had and shows the points at which the skin lied directly on the bone.

    'And as for the facial expressions, it is important that I feel the person that I am creating. The more information the archaeologists give me, such as in which climate the people lived, what they ate, and if they were a warrior or a farmer, then the better I can do'.

    Last year the Siberian Times told how Princess Ukok is set to be buried in her own special mausoleum, with plans submitted for a permanent memorial and final resting place. She spent most of the past two decades at a scientific institute in Novosibirsk, and is now at the Republican National Museum in Gorno-Altaisk, sparking anger among the local people in the Altai Mountain region who want her re-buried.

    Ancient beliefs dictate that her presence in the burial chamber had been to “bar the entrance to the kingdom of the dead”. Elders insisted that removing the mummified remains meant this doorway to the other world is now open and that her anger has already caused a series of floods and earthquakes.

    But now the revered princess could finally be repatriated to her original resting place in the Ukok plateau, with a beautiful mausoleum built on top.

    The reconstruction of Princess Ukok is on display at the museum in Germany.

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    Looks very Iranid, not even joking, but archaic
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