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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondePacifism View Post
    I'd love to learn more about Celtic cultural impact on Iberians. It seems, at least by Y-DNA(R1b), Celtic genes are well present in Spain and Portugal.
    Basques are overwhelmingly R1b too...

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    The most typically Celtic subclade of R1b is present in Spain and Portugal, but not that much:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    The most typically Celtic subclade of R1b is present in Spain and Portugal, but not that much:

    A typical Celtic subclade without presence in Austria, definitely you are not a genius.

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    The most typically Celtic subclade of R1b is present in Spain and Portugal, but not that much:
    Outdated map.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    A typical Celtic subclade without presence in Austria, definitely you are not a genius.
    the only thing that those anti-iberian zealots allow us to be is iberian, apart from moors of course .

    I have no problem , celtiness is not that cool to me, I prefer iberians, they're equally buried as the celts in the remote past, but iberians are something exlusive of iberia, of the mediterranean coast at least, and they have absolutely nothing to do with any other european ethnicity... one positive point for them .

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    Ancient symbols found the architecture of the kingdom of Asturias in 12th century, which shows how the Celtic influence was still present.










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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    It could be true if we think about it. But people here don't consider Asturias as our precedent kingdom, if anything they consider Leon to be it.
    Foramontano


    El término foramontano hace alusión a las gentes, procedentes del norte de la Península Ibérica, con las que en el siglo IX se repoblaron El Bierzo y las tierras al norte del la meseta del Duero, que quedaran vacías como consecuencia de las guerras entre los musulmanes y el Reino de Asturias en los primeros años de la reconquista; posteriormente a estos territorios se les conocería como Reino de León, siendo los foramontanos leoneses. Con la expansión del Reino de León y el proceso repoblador los pobladores foramontanos formaron núcleos de población nuevos por la Región Leonesa, Galicia y el Condado de Castilla.

    La llamada Terra de Foris en la documentación medieval hace referencia al territorio repoblado por habitantes de Las Asturias (Cántabros y Ástures) al sur de la Cordillera Cantábrica y al Este de Galicia especialmente la cuenca oriental del Sil y los habitantes del Oeste de la Meseta Norte donde se repobló la Legio Civitas que posteriormente daría nombre al Reino de León en su expansión al sur del Duero (Zamora, Salamanca), donde ya la denominación de Foramontano viene siendo sustituida por la de leonés.

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foramontano

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    ^ Yes i know Leon didn't pop up magicaly on its own. Just saying that Leon is more in our history books than Asturias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    Outdated map.

    Here's another one:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Here's another one:

    mediterranean coast of spain and basque country have the higher level of this italo-celtic Y-DNA, but there were no celts no?, that was ibero and basque territory, not celtic.

    curious.

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