White Nationalism?!

[Svarog]

What the hell is that?!

I am gonna write really simple so everyone can understand me - Svarog style, and I am not trying to insult anyone here - so - starting with this board, some guy telling me - 'you're not a true white nationalist!', I mean, is that supposed to be an insult, or an accusation - or a compliment? I love Apricity as it is not all that ideologically oriented and you can be whatever you want unlike on some other boards around but still - this made me curious.

What the hell is white nationalism, I never heard for a country named White, so you can be it's nationalist - especially makes no sense for Europeans, at least it did not 30 years ago. If you say for Americans it does make some sense as he/she can be an American nationalist white white skin or whatever and since they have all possible and impossible coloured people there calling themselves a WN would indicate that they support a white side of their country, whatever that means, still sounds stupid to me.

Why would I be a 'white nationalist' when Serbia is a white nation, I am a Serbian nationalist - is that not enough but I have to expand my ideology beyond stupid?

And some things some people constantly fail to understand:

Region
Nation
Race
Religion
Political and sexual orientation

All completely different things - it is in the 8th grade sociology book so please read it!

So, will someone explain me what White Nationalism is, and if you are one of those, what is your ideology based on. No epic 'I will fight with the sword of my father for the ancestors and my soil fed with their blood blah blah blah' answers please as I am sure none of our ancestors called themselves white nationalists.

[Treffie]

White nationalism?!

What the hell is that?!

It's a load of nonsense - that's what it is.

[Loki]

I love Apricity as it is not all that ideologically oriented and you can be whatever you want unlike on some other boards around ...

This is the crux of the matter to me. Apricity is certainly not a "white nationalist" site like Stormfront, or even a Germanic supremacist site like Skadi. We are simply oriented to discuss European cultural matters.

Some members here may identify as White Nationalists -- that is their prerogative and choice, as we believe in freedom of expression and freedom of political choice. But they should not expect everyone else to be of this point of view.

[Aemma]

It's a misnomer really but one borne out of the sense of racialist (not racist) pride (for lack of a better term) more than anything else. The ideology just happens to have a really poorly-worded label.

[Beorn]

For me, a White Nationalist (WN) is someone who holds no passion or sanctity towards the ethnic, cultural and historical preservation of the individual countries of Europe. A WN will happily allow the movement of one grouping of Europeans into another country in Europe and talk only that they can co-exist and assimilate. WN's are anti-European preservation.

[Svarog]

Apricity is certainly not a "white nationalist" site like Stormfront, or even a Germanic supremacist site like Skadi.

It does sound like some Don Black ideology at spot. What other 'ideology' could attract bigger group of people than a white nationalist one as everyone and anyone can pass as white, whatever that is. I hear he is now letting Asians and Jews around too, no doubt Don Black is a very poor man and that Stormfront is a passion and not a moneymaker. Of course boards do need money to work, as I was a staff already I do know that very well, we pretty much bankrupted ourselves but c'mon - a huge rip off for kids with issues. That's where all that WN crap came from to start with and no doubt Don's favorite song is a Scorpion's 'Wind of Change' - as I stated before - first when I joined SF I was not a Nazi enough for the board, now, I'd probably be too much of a nazi.

It was not even kind of my intention to turn this into a Stormfront discussion, but I kind of knew as soon as you touch white nationalism it is gonna involve Stormfront in one way or the another - I do wonder which fronts they're storming

[Electronic God-Man]

"White Nationalism" is a colonial concept that can only be understood in that context. It has no place in Europe as it was never meant to be applied there.

[Allenson]

"White Nationalism" is a colonial concept that can only be understood in that context. It has no place in Europe as it was never meant to be applied there.

This is correct. So, all of you Europeans here don't even need to concern yourselves with such a concept. Move along, there's nothing left to see here.

It might work in places like Australia, Canada, America, etc., but even so, it's a bit slippery if you ask me.

The only benefit that I see to it here in America is that even just the awareness of such a movement might wake "white America" from her indoctrinated slumber and actually take an interest in her linguisto-ethno-racial past and more importantly, her future therein.

[SuuT]

"White Nationalism" is a colonial concept that can only be understood in that context. It has no place in Europe as it was never meant to be applied there.

What's (most) funny about that is speaking with a European 'White Nationalist' who then rails against America. Ownt ker who yuh are, 'at's funneh raht 'ere.

[Electronic God-Man]

"White Nationalism" is a colonial concept that can only be understood in that context. It has no place in Europe as it was never meant to be applied there.

To expand a little...

"White Nationalism" does not seem nearly as ridiculous an ideology once one understands how it is tied to the colonial experience and the use of the term "White". Don Black did not create White Nationalism.

The term "White" was initially applied only to a select group of European settlers in contrast to "Indian" natives and "Black" slaves. The term expanded with time to include more people as was necessary in the colonies and former colonies so as to support the social system in place.

I do not support "White Nationalism" nor even the term "White" (even though the latter is still heavily in use and therefore hard to avoid). Both are outdated and do little to solve our current issues. They have grown well beyond their original intended usage.