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    Quote Originally Posted by Enflamme View Post
    No aryan = no European!



    Well what is clear is Sicilian DNA is mostly Neolithic West Asian and very low indigenous European/WHG/Indo European etc. But of course much of Southern Europe is the same way but the WHG and Indo-European is higher in most other places (including Greece, Spain, etc).

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    Where are Atlanto-Med types?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enflamme View Post
    Where are Atlanto-Med types?
    I called them "Nordo-Med" instead. Atlanto-Med is not predominant in Sicily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    I think you tend to over-estimate the non-European component. Most Sicilians look European and as such, they would fit FAR better as Romanian than Tunisian.

    Take this casting from central Sicily:


    ^ They could easily be Bulgarian. Only two would pass unnoticed in Tunisia, while pretty much all the rest would be assumed as tourists.

    Teenagers from Enna:

    ^ Once again, looking very Italian, but passing all across (Southern) Europe
    Wtf actually more than two can pass unnoticed in tunisia. Here some tunisian women so you can compare :



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Wtf actually more than two can pass unnoticed in tunisia. Here some tunisian women so you can compare :



    I've noticed in North Africa women tend to be considerably lighter and more "Europoid" looking than the men on average. Maybe 1 in 50 among Moroccan/Algerian etc. Men I see can pass as atypical in South Europe while among women this ratio is 1 in 5 I'd say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsaul View Post
    I've noticed in North Africa women tend to be considerably lighter and more "Europoid" looking than the men on average. Maybe 1 in 50 among Moroccan/Algerian etc. Men I see can pass as atypical in South Europe while among women this ratio is 1 in 5 I'd say
    Yes actually it depends from which regions we're talking about but i'd say that moroccans are more homogeneous than their neighbours and I also invite you to take a look at all the MtDNAs that exist in north africa or maybe it's due to sexual selection who knows.
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    It's very interesting to me, that even though Sicilians have one of the lowest (if not the lowest) levels of Atlantic/Baltic or any other classification of European DNA that is specifically not Mediteranian, yet you still wouldn't confuse any one of these pictures with anything but European white. It says something about the high levels of Caucasus/Middle Eastern in them...its white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsaul View Post
    I've noticed in North Africa women tend to be considerably lighter and more "Europoid" looking than the men on average. Maybe 1 in 50 among Moroccan/Algerian etc. Men I see can pass as atypical in South Europe while among women this ratio is 1 in 5 I'd say
    This could be total speculation here, but it seems to me that the within a population, the native sex tends to retain within the same sex gene pool. For example in Iberia, I think the men rather than the women tend to look more central European. We know that Iberia saw massive central european migration into Iberia, the Celts, and they basically replaced the original male gene pool, which is why the Y dna between Portugal, Spain, France, England and Ireland are similar.

    In the case of North Africans, you say the women tend to look more European, well in history the opposite happened with the gene pool. The Barbary pirate slave trade displaced a few million women from Europe and the slave women were absorbed into the North African population. Curious you say the women look more European, after you know that.

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