Sicilian phenotypes BY REGION.. my comprehensive guide to the island and its types!

[Sikeliot]

I don't think the samples look that different to each other. In all of them, most people look distinctly East Med with minorities who can fit either in Northern Europe on the one hand or the MENA/South Asia on the other.

The differences are subtle yes. I am wondering if maybe in reality, most Sicilians are simply Neolithic West Asians and Sardinian-like Paleolithic Meds mixed with the invaders over time, rather than being primarily descended from any invading group in particular.

[Tooting Carmen]

The differences are subtle yes. I am wondering if maybe in reality, most Sicilians are simply Neolithic West Asians and Sardinian-like Paleolithic Meds mixed with the invaders over time, rather than being primarily descended from any invading group in particular.

Yes probably. It's funny - I am told on another thread that Spaniards look exactly the same from Pamplona to Malaga, yet here we are expected to believe that noticeable regional differences exist within Sicily? Hmmm...

[Sikeliot]

Yes probably. It's funny - I am told on another thread that Spaniards look exactly the same from Pamplona to Malaga, yet here we are expected to believe that noticeable regional differences exist within Sicily? Hmmm...

Well in Sicily the coasts often have more light pigmented people due to higher European settlement versus rural inland areas where people are darker, but who knows why.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well in Sicily the coasts often have more light pigmented people due to higher European settlement versus rural inland areas where people are darker, but who knows why.

Well ok, but if that is just one island within a big country, then why, by contrast, are we supposed to believe that no real regional differences exist in a country as big and diverse as Spain?

[Black Wolf]

Yes the differences throughout a lot of the South especially Calabria and Sicily are very subtle.

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyway Sikeliot, how'd you classify the councillors I posted?

[Sikeliot]

Anyway Sikeliot, how'd you classify the councillors I posted?

Mostly East Meds, with other inputs (Berid, Atlantid, Nordid, and Armenoid).

[Tooting Carmen]

Mostly East Meds, with other inputs (Berid, Atlantid, Nordid, and Armenoid).

Is it wrong of me to say that, while the majority of Sicilians look distinctly SE European, the percentage who'd pass in the Near East (up to and including possibly Syria) is considerably higher than those who'd pass in Northern Europe?

[Sikeliot]

Is it wrong of me to say that, while the majority of Sicilians look distinctly SE European, the percentage who'd pass in the Near East (up to and including possibly Syria) is considerably higher than those who'd pass in Northern Europe?

How far north are we talking?
The Alps region is the furthest I'd go before I'd say that it's only a small minority that pass. North of the Alps, it's harder to find Sicilians to fit there.

As far as the Levant goes, the non-Arabid ones can pass well.

[Tooting Carmen]

How far north are we talking?
The Alps region is the furthest I'd go before I'd say that it's only a small minority that pass. North of the Alps, it's harder to find Sicilians to fit there.

As far as the Levant goes, the non-Arabid ones can pass well.

You misunderstand. By Northern Europe, I mean France, Austria and Switzerland upwards. Even the Med types in Southern France (most people aren't actually particularly dark in Provence, Cote d'Azur etc.) don't really look anything like the majority of Sicilians I have seen in this forum and elsewhere. I mean that there are more Sicilians who pass in Israel, Lebanon and Syria (less so Jordan and Palestine as they start to look much darker) than there are who pass even in Britain let alone Sweden.