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    Black women in the U.S. appear to be shrinking

    They're shorter on average than a generation ago, federal study says

    By Tom Hundley | Tribune reporter
    Call her The Incredible Shrinking African-American Woman.

    In an age when the adult populations of most industrialized nations have grown significantly taller, the average height of black women in the U.S. has been receding, beginning with those born in the late 1960s.

    The difference in stature between white women and black women has now stretched to three-quarters of an inch and appears to be increasing, according to newly released data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) conducted by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The main culprit appears to be diet.

    The average height of a black woman born in the 1980s is just under 5 feet 4 inches; her mother, born in the 1960s, is more than half an inch taller. Even her grandmother, born in the 1940s, is a bit taller. The average white woman born in the 1980s is about half an inch taller than her mother.

    The gap is "truly phenomenal," according to John Komlos, an economist and historian who has made a specialty of studying human heights. "Such a steep decline is practically unprecedented in modern U.S. history."

    You have to go back to the antebellum South to find a similar shrinkage. The generation of white men born in the 1840s who experienced the ravages of the Civil War lost nearly an inch to their Northern counterparts, Komlos said.

    A Chicago native who is a professor at the University of Munich, Komlos made a name for himself several years ago when his research revealed that the average height of adult Americans, once the tallest folk to roam the planet, had stopped rising after World War II and has since been surpassed by that of several European nations. The Dutch now lay claim to the title of tallest.

    Komlos' latest findings, based on the NHANES data, suggest that after nearly 25 years of stagnation, the average height of adult Americans born from 1975 to 1986 has edged up again—with the exception of black women, whose height is moving in the opposite direction.

    The reason this matters, according to Komlos, is because "height is a very good overall indicator of how well the human organism thrives in its socioeconomic environment."

    His argument is bolstered by another discovery: While the heights of low- and middle-income black women are plummeting, upper-income black women are growing taller and rapidly closing the gap with their white counterparts.

    An individual's height is fixed mainly by genes, but the average height of different categories of people is determined to a large extent by external factors.

    Komlos, who has been studying heights since the early 1980s, says the downward trend among black women was "quite unexpected."

    "There have been declines before" in the U.S. population, he said. "But never this quickly."

    Nancy Adler, director of the MacArthur Foundation's Research Network on Socioeconomic Status and Health, said Komlos' latest findings were "puzzling" but consistent with what is already known about the impact of income disparity, access to health care and educational levels on a person's overall well-being.

    Also baffling, Adler said, is the disparity between black men and black women, "since they are subject to the same pre-birth conditions" and then grow up in the same environment.

    "The only reasonable explanation we can come up with is diet and the obesity epidemic among [middle- and low-income] black women," said Komlos.

    Over the last three decades, the prevalence of obesity among white Americans has tripled, while among blacks it has increased fivefold.

    Black females were hardest hit: Almost 80 percent of black females are overweight or obese, compared with 62 percent of the total female population, according to the CDC.

    The problem develops early. Twenty-one percent of black females ages 2 to 19 are overweight or obese, compared with 12 percent of white girls.

    Another oddity, according to Komlos, is that black children, both male and female, grow faster and taller than their white counterparts in early childhood, but whites catch up and pass them during the teen years.

    Pediatric growth experts offer one possible explanation. High caloric intake from an unhealthy diet fuels an early growth spurt among black children, plus it speeds the onset of puberty, especially for black girls, who now begin menstruating 81/2 months ahead of white girls. This early onset of puberty reduces the duration of the critical pre-adolescent growth spurt, resulting in a lower adult height.

    People who are short or overweight tend to be more susceptible to health problems than their taller, thinner counterparts. They also tend to produce offspring susceptible to the same problems, thus making the cycle hard to break.

    Komlos blames the long stagnation of American growth rates that began in the 1950s and the current obesity epidemic on the one-two punch of television and fast food.

    "In my opinion, the pressure to consume is so high on the American population that is very difficult for anyone to withstand the urge," he said. "Education and income help, but the pressure is pretty overwhelming."


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    Height is an issue with me I`m only five foot tall, but my children are all a great deal taller than me, with my eldest daughter being six foot!
    My parents were also small, and my dad used to tell me our height was due to the Pictish blood in us.
    Hey, I was a child, I believed him! But he also used to say if we ate our porridge up it`d put hairs on our chests. I spent my preteen years dreading that.....

    I feel deficient now, knowing that the average American black woman is taller than me....

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    Could it be that so many black woman are overweight? I would have to say that by just walking down the street in Washington (my hometown), I would notice that 2 of every 3 black woman are obese. Not fat, but really obese. I guarantee that is a health issue.


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    Another oddity, according to Komlos, is that black children, both male and female, grow faster and taller than their white counterparts in early childhood, but whites catch up and pass them during the teen years.
    That is not an oddity, their gestation period is shorter too. Blacks have evolved to live in a different more physical environment that caucasions and so have a larger emphasis on physical growth. Unfortunatly I can't remember the study but I read that one had been done on the hight discrepancies in the old industrial towns in the british midlands.
    They found that people there were shorter than the average (among other problems) and they put this down to young mothers having low birth weight babies, and those children going on to do the same. Apparantly a low birth weight stunts later physical (and mental) growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorum View Post
    Could it be that so many black woman are overweight? I would have to say that by just walking down the street in Washington (my hometown), I would notice that 2 of every 3 black woman are obese. Not fat, but really obese. I guarantee that is a health issue.


    Just 2 out of 3?
    Almost 100% of ''Third World" women I've seen had been overweight or obese



    How hypocritical of society... Black/Mexican women can be chronically obese and remain ''sexy'' in Hollywood. While the second an European women assumes a normal weight or becomes overweight, she is humiliated and ostracized.


    I think there is a ''fat gene'' that afflicts most of the Third World. But Hollywood as an institution is largely responsible for our failure of upbringing the Negroid and Mexican. The Black had more or less been tamed in the past, but in recent generations, images of ''Gangsters", crack dealers and criminals, has turned a Black Ghetto into a no-go zone for Americans.
    This is in real stark contrast to the stories of the 1940's and 1950's. White Men and Women went to the ''Black Ghettos", because it was perfectly safe and it was a good way to get handicrafts and cheap food
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    Default Fast food, race/ethnicity, and income: a geographic analysis.

    Fast food'll do that to ya.
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    BACKGROUND: Environmental factors may contribute to the increasing prevalence of obesity, especially in black and low-income populations. In this paper, the geographic distribution of fast food restaurants is examined relative to neighborhood sociodemographics. METHODS: Using geographic information system software, all fast-food restaurants within the city limits of New Orleans, Louisiana, in 2001 were mapped. Buffers around census tracts were generated to simulate 1-mile and 0.5-mile "shopping areas" around and including each tract, and fast food restaurant density (number of restaurants per square mile) was calculated for each area. Using multiple regression, the geographic association between fast food restaurant density and black and low-income neighborhoods was assessed, while controlling for environmental confounders that might also influence the placement of restaurants (commercial activity, presence of major highways, and median home values). RESULTS: In 156 census tracts, a total of 155 fast food restaurants were identified. In the regression analysis that included the environmental confounders, fast-food restaurant density in shopping areas with 1-mile buffers was independently correlated with median household income and percent of black residents in the census tract. Similar results were found for shopping areas with 0.5-mile buffers. Predominantly black neighborhoods have 2.4 fast-food restaurants per square mile compared to 1.5 restaurants in predominantly white neighborhoods. CONCLUSIONS: The link between fast food restaurants and black and low-income neighborhoods may contribute to the understanding of environmental causes of the obesity epidemic in these populations.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15450633

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    Does them no favours either...it used to be believed by obese folks (particularly blacks) that being overweight meant, in times of famine, that they would have more reserves to draw upon, but latest research shows that thin people who habitually eat less than average are the ones that survive longest in famine barring other factors like disease, accident etc.
    Well, I may be short but at least I`m not overweight.
    Though, once you hit middle age, it gets harder to keep your weight stable!
    If I was as obese as many black women I`d look like a human barrel.

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    Weird thing about the US, our poor people seem to be the most obese. They are fattest segment of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Weird thing about the US, our poor people seem to be the most obese. They are fattest segment of the population.
    Spending on food instead of investing it well?

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    Gotta love the dollar menu.


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