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Thread: Switzerland to vote on $2,800 monthly ‘basic income’ for adults

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    I disapprove it.

    the market decides who earns what.

    demanding such a ridiculous minimum income is a commie like thinking.

    ask/bid are the two main forces which decide someone's worth based on his talent and other factors.
    What about the company that makes millions. Whilst the honest hard-worker, earns tippings worth, diddly squat & nowt.
    Lazy-arse earns thousands more, for sitting on his fat-arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    In Austria you can easily survive with € 1.000,- provided you are single and not living in the capital or surrounding area
    I'll have to move to Austria then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    What about the company that makes millions. Whilst the honest hard-worker, earns tippings worth, diddly squat & nowt.
    Lazy-arse earns thousands more, for sitting on his fat-arse.
    a company that makes a large profit will surely prevent people from sitting on their fat asses and not doing a thing.

    most office workers, especially high level office workers have a degree, experience and overall higher intelligence than an average assembly line worker.

    most people can work on assembly line while far not everyone work on a higher level.

    this proposal to ensure such a high minimum income is commie thinking and should be thrown out of the window

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I'll have to move to Austria then
    Well on first sight it may look attractive but bear in mind that lower prices imply also lower wages and lower life standard in general I assume than in Great Britain.
    I have visited England so I know what I am talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post

    this proposal to ensure such a high minimum income is commie thinking and should be thrown out of the window
    Why shouldn't people have easier lives? Switzerland is rich enough to be able to do this, it's the right move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Why shouldn't people have easier lives? Switzerland is rich enough to be able to do this, it's the right move.
    because history has shown many times that it doesnt work this way.

    implementation of this proposal is not just unfair, but would have far going consequences for the entire nation.

    Switzerland is rich enough NOT to do this.

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    If the UK wasn't so Londoncentric, it would be a far easier place to live, if you earn less.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    Switzerland is rich enough NOT to do this.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    lol
    Imagine its done, even a cleaning lady or a street sweeper makes $2800 or whatever.

    where does the money come from ? (explain your vision).

    scenario 1): money comes from profits of the company, in that case the company ends up paying less taxes on profit AND could easily move abroad = either way its a catastrophy
    scenario 2): money comes from those who make more, they are either taxed more OR their salaries are reduced (dramatically). In that case its socialism Soviet model. It will result in degradation of the population and people will be inclined to study less, since even a cleaning lady/street sweeper makes a very decent living. Reduction of education would surely be a disaster for a high tech country like Switzerland which benefits from high educated population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    Imagine its done, even a cleaning lady or a street sweeper makes $2800 or whatever.

    where does the money come from ? (explain your vision).
    That's perfectly reasonable. A cleaning lady should earn that in Switzerland, it's humane and reasonable.

    Where does the money come from? Do you know Switzerland?
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