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Change it to "North-East European" instead of "North European" and then I'll be happy
Finns score higher than East-Central European Ukrainians or South-East European Romanians & Bulgarians, so that component is clearly more of a "North-East European" rather than just a general "East European".
We don't. Your hair is blonder than mine but you have a wog eye while my eyes are light
And metrically you're more of an East Baltid than I am, soz.
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I don't get why people are so hung up on the names of admixture components. "Oh look, X is more Northern European than Y. That means..." Well, all it means is that in certain admixture runs, X is more Component A than Y. We call it "Northern European" because it's easier for us to read.
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Finns and Estonians are always the northernmost people on a X/Y axis, with X being "West-East" and Y being "North-South. Like in 23andme, me and all other Estonians/Finns are the northernmost cluster, above Scandinavians, Balts,Slavs and Central-Europeans. It makes sense, already geographically. As Finnics are the northernmost group of Europeans, Scandinavians being 2nd.
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Well, technically the closest correlation with geography runs at an angle.
Part of that has to do with northerners being closer genetically to East Asians and farther from Africans and West Asians than southerners, as well as easterners being closer genetically to East Asians and farther from Africans and West Asians than westerners. So you could say X is African-Asian and Y is Asian-African.
What a liar! What, did you think I ain't gonna check out what you cluster like at 23andme and you will be able to tell BS to everybody here??
You cluster at the EXACT same spot as 1/4 Russian 3/4 Latvian Una. And guess what, my Central Lithuanian grandmother's brother as well as Samogitian grandfather are not any more Southern than you, only more Western - in fact, you're not even very Northern compared to the other Lithuanians:
The hell you do with an AG at rs12913832.
This isn't "light" in Lithuania and I doubt whether it is in Estonia.
Dude, you could be a textbook example of a Baltid - your jaw isn't square, the browridge isn't prominent, your features are rounded and eyes mildly slanting. Why pretend to be something you're not? I've seen your photos.
Why would it matter where it's located now - don't you know the history of how your country was populated?? Finnic languages contain a lot of ancient loanwords not only from Baltic - loanwords from proto-Germanic are even more numerous. How do you think they got there if not with the assimilated Germanic people? Why would you score higher in North-East European than Lithuanians or Northern Slavs who lack this ancient but sizable Western admix from Germanics? On top of that, the settlement of Scandinavians and Germans in Finland was quite massive during the past few hundred of years (didn't you read Henke's threads about this subject at ABF?) and they got assimilated over time. No such thing happened in Poland (only Scottish settlement was sizeable there but even that wasn't very statistically significant).
So, why shouldn't Finns have a larger North-West admix than Poles?
Does the North-East Europe have significantly more of it than the South-East Europe? Yes. How's it just Eastern European then?
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