Is Hollywood degrading ?

[Thordis]

Not only Hollywood but the entertainment industry has unfortunately long been a breeding ground for morally objectionable, not to mention scandalous practices. And stories like Weinstein's are just the tip of the iceberg. The things that go on behind the curtains are shocking if not downright scary. Weird rituals, animal sacrifices, (sexual) abuse, pedophilia are all part of a day's work. Apparently, if one wants to become successful anywhere in the entertainment industry, one has no choice but to subject themselves to such practices and basically sell their souls to the devil. Stanley Kubrik’s portrayal of the elite was just a little too accurate. The elites who run Hollywood are satanic.

Now on the surface, it seems odd that in the age of science and technology powerful moguls and studio execs would engage in arcane rituals, however this has been going on since the beginning of Hollywood and has been exposed by numerous researchers and even movies and cartoons. Those who practice these Luciferian traditions truly believe it gives them power. Some actors and artists who had been subjected to these rituals or witnessed them have also come forward. The web is so deep it’s really shocking, basically everyone who is a big name in Hollywood is either a participant or kept silent. Their speech, performances, music lyrics also seem to include hints towards the dark and occult. Famous singers such as Ariana Grande, Nicki Minaj and Rihanna have hinted towards being members of the Illuminati and having sold their souls to the devil for fame. Lady Gaga is quite the fan of performance artist Marina Abramovic, who holds cannibalistic cake parties and practices “spirit cooking”, etc.

Once an aspiring entertainer submits to these sexual abuses, they’re lead down into the dark underworld of the entertainment industry, requiring increasingly depraved acts as they go along; you give up everything and become an abomination, just for fame and fortune. Those who cannot be vile and stop going to meetings and rituals start losing everything they had built up. Because if you want the movie roles coming in, you’ve got to keep doing the rituals. And if you don’t do your time in the rituals you suffer the consequences. If you want to be a celebrity in Hollywood, then your attendance at these parties is going to be mandatory.

This documentary explains what's going on behind the curtains:



However depraved, it's not just the entertainment industry at fault. Society as a whole has changed, and not for the better, unfortunately. If we think about it, just 40, 50, 60 years ago people had much higher moral values and such individuals were considered perverts and dismissed as crazy nutters back then. Also, there is a decadence within religious institutions, who no longer propagate traditional moral values, but instead have mimicked the SJW definition of “progress”. The Pope, for instance, is propagating what would have been considered heresy and what traditional Christians would have gone after tooth and nail back in the day. Actually traditional Christians were onto this Hollywood problem a long time ago and they were onto the whole idea, e.g. they had this “burn your TV” campaign, where people would take their TVs, go on to the fields and shoot them because they were so upset by the decadent and morally loose programming that was coming on prime time. Children used to grow up without TVs or had their entertainment scrutinized by their parents and they somehow survived, they’d actually spend more outside and play rather than watching the tube. Today we have not only TV-educated kids but also, not even children’s programs are safe. Violent or sexual content is gradually becoming standard when it comes to cartoons and children TV shows.

Feminism and sexual liberation have contributed to shaping an anti-family, individualist, materialist and consumerist culture. And the content that is promoted in the media is also not accidental. It’s basically brainwashing material which seduces the minds of people and shows life under a false light; it clouds ideals and denigrates concepts like love, honor, (self)-respect, loyalty, or decency. Organizations like the National League of Decency saw this “cultural revolution” coming and dedicated themselves to identifying and combating objectionable content in motion pictures.



How often do we see this nowadays?

And this is fascinating, not only did the people who signed onto that agree not to watch movies that were immoral or indecent but they also took a pledge that they would never again enter the theater that had played the film that was morally objectionable, unless the owner apologized for it and promised not to do it again. And that actually worked for a while. But now, of course, we’re supposed to be more “grown-up”, more sophisticated, while those who oppose this direction are considered old-fashioned, rigid individuals who “just don’t get it”. We, in 2018 are the advanced and enlightened, we’re the normal ones… Unfortunately, we’re on a slippery slope. Now we’re at war with family, gender, sexuality… completely lost our moral compass… we don’t even know if we’re boys or girls, women or men, so disoriented we don’t know what we are allowed to be anymore.

So maybe it’s time to look back and see how we got here in the first place, instead of just defending it and accusing anyone who objects to the sex and the sewage piling out of our TVs and computers, in our schools, even in our house of government, of being a "prude", a "bigot" or a "hater". That’s the only answer they’ve got. Instead of this, we should wonder whether we’re missing something, if we’re different now and whether our consciences are dumbed down and less sensitive than our fathers’ and is that necessarily a good thing? What if those early reactions were right and what if our desire to laugh at them and dismiss them only gives proof and indication of how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone… What if they saw evil in a way that many of our contemporaries are no longer capable of seeing? Maybe, like in the movies, they’ve been deceived.

[Loki]

This is interesting (and shocking) -- many celebrities talk of selling their souls to the devil. It's almost universal among famous musical artists and actors.



Are they so shortsighted that they don't realise they'll have an eternity to pay for it? Not a very wise deal at all...

[AK-47]

Hollywood products are a mirror of its viewers morals and values, or lack thereof.
The buck stops with the viewers insatiable appetite for gore, porn and poorly written scripts.

[Loki]

Hollywood products are a mirror of its viewers morals and values, or lack there of.
The buck stops with the viewers insatiable appetite for gore, porn and poorly written scripts.

..or is it the other way round, that the viewers begin to follow the morals and values of the celebrities? I think so, yes. They are touted and popularized as role models for children (used to be teenagers, but nowadays even young children are exposed to the filth). People are easily influenced. Children are brainwashed from very young by the one-eyed devil in the home, aka the TV.

[AK-47]

..or is it the other way round, that the viewers begin to follow the morals and values of the celebrities? I think so, yes. They are touted and popularized as role models for children (used to be teenagers, but nowadays even young children are exposed to the filth). People are easily influenced.

At the end of the day, I take personal responsibility, and don't pass the buck.
For instance, no amount of fake news or lies, can sway my voting habits an inch.
I hate Hollywood and boycott all their products, simple.
Hollywood is a massive business and caters a product that an audience has a demand for.
A society with a moral compass pointed squarely in the direction of decency, would dictate the values of Hollywood, via their viewing habits.
A civilization that needs scapegoats and the boogeyman, points to their lack of intestinal fortitude, to repair their dying society.
Wont work.
Never has.
The pimp is the bad guy, if it wasn't for him and his prostitutes, I wouldn't have gotten herpes...

[Thordis]

Yes, it's not only a matter of a consumerist public, but where do such "values" come from and why do the people consume them in the first place. Hollywood wasn't always as corrupt and as fallen as it is today. There was once a time in the not too distant past when movie studios made a pointed effort to self-censor, rejecting content seen as too sexual, violent or immoral. Not too many generations ago, there was a moral code that Hollywood studios subscribed to when releasing films. Sex, crime, offensive language, nudity, illegal drug use, the ridicule of religion, and certain other behaviors were not tolerated. Occasionally, some movies would igore the code, but then people organized themselves to make sure that these things didn't get out of hand. And behind them there were Christian leaders, who played a significant role in shaping what was coming out of Hollywood at the time, something that would seem unimaginable today.

Initiatives like the National League of Decency and the Protestant Film Office (another Christian group involved in shaping content) worked to actively boycott immoral content and actually kept people out of the seats of theaters if they condemned a movie, or if they said a movie would jeopardize people's souls. And their effort made a pretty big difference, offering a buffer between Hollywood and the culture at large. This pushback created problems for movie moguls, who were forced to adhere to the code if they wanted their content to sell. The Legion of Decency, for example, was formed in the early 30s as a reaction to movies becoming morally bankrupt - full of nudity, perversity and violence. So despite Hollywood occasionally devolving, there was a clear expression of dissatisfaction and opposition from the public. While nowadays we have not only apathy, but even people mimicking the "values" they see displayed on TV. Those organizations either closed down, stopped functioning due to lack of funding or became less adamant and influential, and people stopped trying to shape the quality of what they were consuming, a scenario that eventually had profound consequences on Hollywood and the culture at large.

And yes, the morals and values of celebrities have a significant impact on society. Clearly, Americans look into their TV sets and get a high-definition dose of Hollywood's take on values. They idolize the stars or find role models amongst them and try to reproduce their behavior. When you have celebrities saying they never had an aboriton, but they wished they had, that they "love their tits being out" or instagramming photos of their young teenaged sons holding alcohol bottles in celebration of the new year, when the news places emphasis on sex, violence and ditzy head-shaving celebrities, these values get transferred to the newer generations. What used to be unacceptable for others before them suddenly becomes normalcy to them. Decades ago, people in the entertainment industry still seemed to see themselves as having some degree of responsibility to protect, or at least to consider its impact on the audience. Today, though, it's not uncommon to see celebrities doing very little to ensure their work has a positive impact on society and, in particular, on the youth. Also back then, celebrities still sported a talent of sorts, while nowadays supposedly serious news outlets devote hours of airtime to those like the Kardashians or Paris Hilton, whose ticket to fame were either their old-wealth surname, their her talent on "private" sex tapes or simply being everywhere - the term "socialite" was born. Or if we look at how the typical family was portrayed - compare shows like 7th Heaven with One Big Happy or the Fosters. What people consume on a daily basis shapes their mentality, directly or indirectly.

What is remarkable however is that there is a general agreement -- about 74% of Americans, according to a survey -- who believe that moral values are weaker than they were 20 years ago. Furthermore, 68% believe the media has had a detrimental effect on moral values in America.

The agreement is also remarkable across political and religious subsets. Not only do 73% believe the entertainment media has a negative effect on America's commitment to moral values, that's a sentiment shared by Republicans (86%) and Democrats (68%); conservatives (80%) and liberals (64 %); even religious types identified as orthodox (82%) and mostly secular progressives (62%).

It also looks like some Christian themes are making a comeback in Hollywood, although it's very difficult for such filmmakers to get the recognition they deserve - they can be easily dismissed for not being "part of mainstream Hollywood fare", even despite brining a decent amount of money to the studios. One often needs to already be a big name in Hollywood in order to make an impact, and even then one can attract controversy. The box office success of such films however points to the fact that traditional, conservative values haven't died out and people seek more than just the usual consumerism.

So what has changed is not that the problem isn't recognized, but that people nowadays merely talk about public virtues, but don't defend or embrace them as much as in the past, they no longer set an example to others. Of course political correctness is one big obstacle - criticize anything non-traditional and you are deemed a bigot, old fashioned or "unprogressive" that requires some "sensitivity training". But is apathy. Parents, for instance could act as gatekeepers to their children's entertainment, filter it and guide them through its treacherous passages. Similarly, political and religious organizations should ideally represent people, back each other up and create initiatives as a driving force to instill such changes in mentality.

[Thordis]

Below is a video that explains how the programming is done:

Hollywood inserts social justice messages into their shows by creating characters we keep wanting to spend time with, then have those characters act in ways most of us would judge wrong. Then, in effect, they ask us a question. e.g. Isn't it really okay that Rachel from Friends decided to have a baby without first marrying Ross? After all, you like Ross, and you like Rachel. How can what they do be bad?

Most of this transformation took place since the early 70s, when abortion was a hotly contested issue. A year before the Roe vs. Wade Supreme Court case, the top TV rated sitcom, Maude, featured a storyline in which the title character of the show has an abortion. The LA Times described it as a "watershed moment" in TV history. Why? Well because it removed the stigma of abortion. Millions of Americans saw their beloved character do something they did not approve of, and they felt sympathy.

Something similar happened in the early 2000s, when the show Will & Grace had a major impact on how Americans saw same-sex marriage. Before the hit NBC show, though most Americans had a live and let live attitude towards private sexual behavior, few supported the idea of men marrying men or women marrying women. But seeing the charming and funny Will Truman live his life week after week paved the way for a much wider acceptance of same-sex marriage.

Current shows like Orange is the New Black and Transparent are trying to affect the same change on the issue of transgenderism. Hollywood has (had) a tremendous influence on our culture.