Which members here are most liberal? Which are most conservative?

**arcticwolf** · 10-21-2013, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

I'm the most liberal in the true meaning of the term.

Look at the ego on you! Not so fast in the true meaning of the words!

**arcticwolf** · 10-21-2013, 04:02 AM

I'm neither, I don't fit in either camp, I stick to reality, don't give a shit about ideas as such, if they (the ideas) follow reality I'm on that side, don't give two shits if others describe them as liberal or conservative.

**~~armenianbodyhair~~** · 10-21-2013, 04:06 AM

Idk I am center-right to right.

**~~Herr Abubu~~** · 10-21-2013, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by arcticwolf

Look at the ego on you! Not so fast in the true meaning of the words!

No, I really am. Today it's associated with the progressives in the US although they're not liberals, i.e., liberalists. The reason for this is that the Democrats were originally the liberalist, laissez-faire political party in the US, but the progressives took over. Now part of the reason is that the name stuck and that the progressives took it to deceive people. Going by this, I am, since I am the most politically liberalistic, afaik.

**Anglojew** · 10-21-2013, 04:13 AM

Microrobert is clearly a hippy.

**Methmatician** · 10-21-2013, 04:33 AM

I would think Svipdag to be the most conservative. The most liberal is either SkyBurn or Aunt Hilda.

Btw, if someone calls you a 'liberal' in Australia it usually means 'conservative'.

**alfieb** · 10-21-2013, 04:43 AM

Liberal and conservative are poor terms to use, because they do not have a universal meaning.

What is known as "economic conservatism" in America today is the "classical liberalism" of the 18th century. What is known as "economic liberalism" in America today is called social democracy elsewhere. Traditional "economic conservatism" was protectionism, not laissez-faire free trade. Indeed, in many countries, "liberalism" still means "laissez-faire", just not the ass-backwards USA.

I am a libertarian, in that I believe in maximum freedom, in both the economic and social realms. In a left-right spectrum, I don't really fit... that's why politics should be seen as a sphere rather than a straight line.

**LightHouse89** · 10-21-2013, 09:04 PM

That's it in a nut shell and now America is a looney leftist nation but good maybe? I do not care would be nice if they got rid of their foreign policy in the process. I hope the economy does sink there so that this can happen. I mean why do they need troops in Germany? Are the spooky Russians going to invade? I don't think so! I dislike NATO it needs to go its a waste of money. Tell this to these progressives and they will buy it I bet.

**LightHouse89** · 10-21-2013, 09:05 PM

disgusting!

**~~armenianbodyhair~~** · 10-21-2013, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

No, I really am. Today it's associated with the progressives in the US although they're not liberals, i.e., liberalists. The reason for this is that the Democrats were originally the liberalist, laissez-faire political party in the US, but the progressives took over. Now part of the reason is that the name stuck and that the progressives took it to deceive people. Going by this, I am, since I am the most politically liberalistic, afaik.

Acting like the rest of the world should use the US's fucked up definition of these things. LOL.