More Eupedia mtDNA maps U4, U3, and U2

[cally]

You, me, Artex, and callmyname have very ancient European lineages. U5 and U4 where the two most dominate haplogroups in European hunter gatherers but Grahm has K a farmer haplogroup that probably arrived about 9,000 years ago.

What about U4d ?

[Artek]

What about U4d ?

Some U4d's were confirmed in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitted_Ware_culture

[cally]

Some U4d's were confirmed in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitted_Ware_culture

thank you, i was reading about that, interesting

[Black Wolf]

There are plenty of samples of people with Y DNA R and mtDNA U in ancient DNA. Probably around 10% of modern west Europeans have this mix. You forgot to mention all K which is really U8b2 so Grahm is also a member. You, me, Artex, and callmyname have very ancient European lineages. U5 and U4 where the two most dominate haplogroups in European hunter gatherers but Grahm has K a farmer haplogroup that probably arrived about 9,000 years ago. R descendants probably didn't become widespread in Europe till the copper age. So far only Y DNA I and C-V20 have been found in Mesolithic Europe, F-96 can maybe also be connected as the original Y DNA of U5, U4, and U2e people.

MA1(24,000 year old Siberian) who had R* and U*(his own distinct lineage), both R1a1a's(mtDNA K1 and U5b1a'b) from Corded ware culture in Eulau Germany dating to 2,600BC, One of two the R1b's(one had K1) from Bell beaker culture in Kromsdorf, Germany dating to 2,600-2,500BC, both R1a1 early Indo Iranians(U2e and U5a1) in Siberia from Andronovo culture dating to 1,400-1,800BC, One of two of the R1a1's(U) in Germany from Urnfield culture dating to 1,000BC, an R1a1 Mongol(probably Indo Iranian descended and had mtDNA U2el) from Mongolia dating to 300-100bc, an R(XR1a) sample in northern Spain from 807-974AD also had mtDNA U5a, an R1a1-M458 samples in Germany from 1200ad also had mtDNA K.

Ahem you forgot me buddy lol!

[Fire Haired]

Ahem you forgot me buddy lol!

You have Y DNA J2a-Z2227 not some form of R.

[Azalea]

My maternal line is also U4a(U4a1b, more precisely), descending from this hotspot in the Benelux.
I smell a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swifterbant_culture

So it's possible that U4 fellows could've looked like this lad

Hey, another one! My grandfather's mtDNA is U4a1b. Tried to found more information about this haplogroup but it seems a pretty rare one..

*Oh wait, he is U4a2b, not 1....

[Azalea]

Looks like I am a product of R1a man and U4b woman.

Are there any 'R1' men and 'U' women haplogroup pairs on this forum? (Fire Haired is one, cuz, Artek)

My grandpa, thus indirect me. R1b1b2a-U4a2b.

[Black Wolf]

You have Y DNA J2a-Z2227 not some form of R.

I'm talking about mtDNA. You said ''You, me, Artex, and callmyname have very ancient European lineages.''

[Jackson]

I wonder where my U5a1 came from, group seems to have been generally more in the east during the Mesolithic, but then by the Neolithic it's as far away as Spain as well.

[Fire Haired]

I'm talking about mtDNA. You said ''You, me, Artex, and callmyname have very ancient European lineages.''

Sorry.

You and I probably have lineages from Mesolithic central-west Europe. The Y DNA haplogroups of Loschbour, Motola12, and La Brana-1 combined are close to non existent(around 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% at the most) in north-central-west Europe today and anywhere in Europe. The mtDNA of Mesolithic north-central-Europe survived I guess pretty well maybe above 5% or even as high as 10%. Y DNA I2a1, I2a2, and I1 all may have all originated in north-central-west Europe though.