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    Quote Originally Posted by Protospatha View Post
    ^^ Yes, but where did those Indus Valley people come from? From the area of origin of J2 and G: Anatolia.
    Highest diversity of J2 is found in Caucasus and the highest percentage of WestAsian/Caucasus component is found among non-Indo European speaking people in Caucasus so that is totally invalid.Moreover G or specifically G2a has absolutely nothing to do with IE people they were early Neolithic Sardinian like farmers.

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    I've personally another theories about a common very ancient roots (9-8000 B.C. circa) of indoeuropeans and (ancient) semithic people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Highest diversity of J2 is found in Caucasus and the highest percentage of WestAsian/Caucasus component is found among non-Indo European speaking people in Caucasus so that is totally invalid.Moreover G or specifically G2a has absolutely nothing to do with IE people they were early Neolithic Sardinian like farmers.
    "A common ancestor for Indo-European and Hurrian"

    http://dienekes.blogspot.it/2011/02/...opean-and.html

    G is found in Aryan castes too and more than 18% in Kalash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perduellio View Post
    But this can work with my theory: the region you mentioned were the second stop of the indoeuropean proto euro people.
    This is not about personal theories.It is about interpreting what scholars believe and what arguments and facts provide.So yours and Protospatha theories are not backed up by serious scholars except the fully biased Dienekes who wants to make Greeks as the most IE people.He is just butthurt because he speaks a language that has nothing to do with his ancestors.

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    I think real urheimat of IE languages was Central Asia and people from andronovo-culture were first IE speakers.
    <img src=http://www.adasskosher.org/AdassKashrusLogo.jpg border=0 alt= />

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    This is not about personal theories.It is about interpreting what scholars believe and what arguments and facts provide.So yours and Protospatha theories are not backed up by serious scholars except the fully biased Dienekes who wants to make Greeks as the most IE people.He is just butthurt because he speaks a language that has nothing to do with his ancestors.
    Do not return on political facts, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    This is not about personal theories.It is about interpreting what scholars believe and what arguments and facts provide.So yours and Protospatha theories are not backed up by serious scholars except the fully biased Dienekes who wants to make Greeks as the most IE people.He is just butthurt because he speaks a language that has nothing to do with his ancestors.
    The fact that Harappa civilization was the most ancient indoeuropean advanced civilization is an evidence, not a dienekes theory.
    And no-one here has spoken of "greek purity".

    You really believe that uber-weiss aryan Vrill inhabited Northern Europe after Thule island sinking, and after they mixed with untermenschen, unless in ancient Germany, like Von Sebottendorf Nietsche and after Hitler (but also Madame Blavatsky theosophy) believed? I find this pseudo-science hard to believe, sincerely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perduellio View Post
    I personally believe thath Multan-Lahore (Indo Valley) civilization was the uhremeit of the Indoeuropeans people: take a look of the position...this would also explain why pseudo/para-white people are also diffused in the surrounding areas.




    Indo Valley civilization was very advanced, with lost knowleges and a mysterious end.
    symbols in indo valley and Isle of pascua (older than 5000 years)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gold_fenix View Post
    symbols in indo valley and Isle of pascua
    I read firstly this theory (Rapa Nui - Vallindian connection) here, when i was a child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Perduellio View Post
    The fact that Harappa civilization was the most ancient indoeuropean advanced civilization is an evidence, not a dienekes theory.
    And no-one here has spoken of "greek purity".

    You really believe that uber-weiss aryan Vrill inhabited Northern Europe after Thule island sinking, and after they mixed with untermenschen, unless in ancient Germany, like Von Sebottendorf Nietsche and after Hitler (but also Madame Blavatsky theorosphy) believed? I find this pseudo-science hard to believe, sincerely.
    This has nothing to do with Aryan and Untermensch things.It is just that PIE people were extremely warlike and patriarchal so they didn't include any foreign male into their group meanwhile the female lineages were quite diverse.


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