Indo-European origins.

[Prince Carlo]

Be fin quando non trovano un altro Oezti allora io ho ragione.

[Optimus]

LoL at all the people who voted "Central-East Europe"

Those people who voted WestAsia have no single clue that J2 and WestAsian component peaks at non Indo-European speaking Caucasus people.So i wonder how IE happened to carry J2 and WestAsian component.

[Peyrol]

Oetzi was a kind of proto-sardinian.

[Albion]

LoL at all the people who voted "Central-East Europe"

I voted for it because I wanted to vote for the Pontic Steppe.

You really believe in the para-scientific theories about "german origin of aryan race"...c'mon guys...

Yes, sure... because Germans are living in Ukraine and Kazakhstan and prefer these as an urheimat to places which actually had civilisation such as the Med or Anatolia...

Please stop with the conspiracy theories already, it is getting old and you look petty.

[Siginulfo]

Those people who voted WestAsia have no single clue that J2a and WestAsian component peaks at non Indo-European speaking Caucasus people.

Again what I said! You not read my links, fuck, and want to be right and I must read your proofs?

This is the last time I re-link something:

A common ancestor of Indo-European and Hurrian

http://dienekes.blogspot.it/2011/02/...opean-and.html

Poor you, G peaks in IE Ossetians and other groups derived from IE speakers (Kalash) and descendandts of Tocharians (Uyghurs; that could have the maximum frequency in the world).

Read previous pages.

[Albion]

This thread is disseminated of proofs I linked, too, but given that no one cares to read it, I'll no read yours, so this conflict will never end. I have more proofs than you.

Good argument - just refer to your evidence whilst completely ignoring his facts that ruin it.

Maybe try looking for alternative theories as to why Otzi had G without West Asian admixture rather than just ignoring it.

[Peyrol]

Again, what have Kazakhstan or Central Asia of "eastern Europe"?

[Artek]

Refute please, and none of your bullshit this time.

I suppose that he scored J/G in the Y-DNA test and now he wants to get rid of the frustration because of that

[Siginulfo]

I suppose that he scored J/G in the Y-DNA test and now he wants to get rid of the frustration because of that

YOU MAD! I hope to be J2 or G!!! Are you kidding me?! Better to be an IE Neolithic farmer than a non-IE Turkic speaker R1a (a.k.a Afanasevo/Andronovo)

[Albion]

Poor you, G peaks in IE Ossetians and other groups derived from IE speakers (Kalash) and descendandts of Tocharians (Uyghurs; that could have the maximum frequency in the world).

Read previous pages.

Ossetians are just North Caucasians who adopted Indo-Iranian culture and language, silly.
Tocharians possessing G actually points to the Pontic Steppe and thus R1a theory of IE - G can easily be explained as assimilated North Caucasians that ended up there via the IE nomadic migrations.
What would Neolithic farmers be doing in the barren Tarim? The Tocharians were goat herders!