View Poll Results: Where did IE originate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protospatha View Post
    You are right. The cause of the modern political troubles in Europe is to be attributed to R1a communists and R1b
    You must hate Europe then, R1a and R1b are the majority. Maybe the Maltese and Sardinians are more your type of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protospatha View Post
    I've taken a decision: I won't post in this thread anymore. {LIES AND BULLSHIT CENSORED} Bye all! Good dreams!
    I hope so.

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    People tend to be very absolute about what were the IE haplogroups...but different families of IE could have belonged to different y-dna. At least this is what I think because neither R1a nor J2 or G can explain were IE languages are spoken today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protospatha View Post
    I've taken a decision: I won't post in this thread anymore. After all, why do I have to make you know the truth? The right thing is that I know the truth, yes, this is enough. Bye all! Good dreams!
    It's more wise to trust to many sources and experienced scientists than to one guy who is called a "couch anthropologist".

    I'm sorry to hear that you've stopped posting in this thread, this discussion started to look interesting. I hope that you will make a new thread about this to enlighten our minds.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020>YP1033*
    R1b-U152>L2>DF103>S14469
    It's still not an end.
    R1a and R1b unite - Join!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    FFS, now Central Asia is North East Asia just because you say so is it? Mongols and Turks crept into IE territory as they learned horse riding and weaponry from them and refined weapons such as the bow which they'd use against the IEs on the steppes latter on.
    That's right, in I century AD, before great migration of turkic Xiongnu-tribe, altaic people lived in Mongolia, Manchuria and East Siberia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    You must hate Europe then, R1a and R1b are the majority. Maybe the Maltese and Sardinians are more your type of people.
    We Sardinians are in majority R1b and I2a (63 or 70 % of population according to different studies) (haplogroup I is one of the most ancient native european haplogroup and it constitutes the 37-40% of Sardinian population)
    the G2a constitutes only the 11-15% of population, and it is spread also on the Alps (about 10%) where the Oetzi's mummy was found.

    more infos about the g haplogroup distribution in Europe:
    In Europe west of the Black Sea Haplogroup G is found at about 5% of the population on average throughout most of the continent.[19] The concentration of G falls below this average in Scandinavia, the westernmost former Soviet republics and Poland, as well as in Iceland and the British Isles. There are seeming pockets of unusual concentrations within Europe. In Wales, a distinctive G2a3b1 type (DYS388=13 and DYS594=11) dominates there and pushes the G percentage of the population higher than in England. In western Austria, in the Tirol (Tyrol) the G percentage can reach 8% or more (Otzi also had it). In the northern and highland areas of the island of Sardinia off western Italy, G percentages reach 11% of the population in one study[20] and reached 21% in the town of Tempio in another study. In the Greek island of Crete, approximately 7%[21] to 11%[22] of males belong to haplogroup G. In north-eastern Croatia, in the town of Osijek, G was found in 14% of the males.[23] The city is on the banks of the river Drava, which notably begins in the Tirol/Tyrol region of the Alps, another haplogroup G focus area in Europe. Farther north, 8% of ethnic Hungarian males and 5.1% of ethnic Bohemian (Czech) males have been found to belong to Haplogroup G.
    Last edited by askra; 07-07-2012 at 05:02 PM. Reason: added more infos about haplogroup g

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    Quote Originally Posted by askra View Post
    We Sardinians are in majority R1b and I2a (almost the 70% of population) (haplogroup I is one of the most ancient native european haplogroup and it constitutes the 40% of Sardinian population)
    the G2a constitutes only the 15% of population, and it is spread also on the Alps (about 10%) where the Oetzi's mummy was found.
    Indeed, G2a must be very old in Europe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabeiros View Post
    Indeed, G2a must be very old in Europe...
    Neolithic time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by askra View Post
    We Sardinians are in majority R1b and I2a (almost the 70% of population) (haplogroup I is one of the most ancient native european haplogroup and it constitutes the 40% of Sardinian population)
    the G2a constitutes only the 15% of population, and it is spread also on the Alps (about 10%) where the Oetzi's mummy was found.
    I do find R1a, R1b and I1 rather boring, but that is because of how predominant they are over Europe.
    Neolithic and earlier haplogroups have interesting histories but I don't like to see misinformation about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I do find R1a, R1b and I1 rather boring, but that is because of how predominant they are over Europe.
    Neolithic and earlier haplogroups have interesting histories but I don't like to see misinformation about them.
    If i get tested i want to be I2a2 Disles HG since it's uncommon outside of England.

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