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Thread: Haplogroup E3b1a2 as a Possible Indicator of Settlement in Roman Britain by Soldiers of Balkan Ori

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    Perfectly agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Thracian soldiers in Roman Britain

    Epigraphic evidence for the presence of individual
    Thracian soldiers, as well as for Thracian military units
    of the Roman army, is found in several locations in
    Britain. Jarrett (1969) traced the probable careers and
    locations of thirty-seven separate Thracian units in the
    Roman military, ranging from the provinces of Syria to
    Britannia. He noted the difficulty of determining
    exactly how many Thracian units were formed in total,
    because of the Roman military’s unmethodical habit of
    naming many of the newly raised units the cohors I
    Thracum (First Thracian Cohort), regardless of how
    many of these units with the same name had existed
    previously. These Thracian cohorts initially were raised
    for service (probably) in Germany; some later were
    assigned to service in Britain. The cohors I Thracum eq.
    (mounted cohort of Thracian cavalry), is recorded on a
    tombstone in Cologne from the first century; this unit
    had moved to Britain by 122 and was still there under
    Severus (r. 193-211). The cohors II Thracum moved
    from Germany to Britain between the mid-first century
    and CE 103, perhaps as a result of the Bouddican revolt.
    Only one seventh cohort is known, the cohors VII
    Thracum. It was attested in Britain in 122 and 135 and
    in Brittania Inferior (corresponding to northern
    England, with its capital at York) in the third century.
    Among the alae (“wings” of cavalry), the ala I Thracum
    was attested in Britain in 103 and 124; tombstones from
    Colchester (about CE 45) and Cirencester (CE 62) attest
    to the unit’s presence in Britain in the mid-first century
    and an engraved trulla (washbasin or ladle), possibly
    Flavian, places the unit in Isca Silurum (Caerleon,
    Gwent) in the late 1st century.
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    The unit was moved to
    lower Germany (Germania inferior)
    by the mid-second
    century and was still there in 219 (Jarrett, 1969, p 218).
    http://www.familytreedna.com/group-j...px?Group=E-V13

    This project attempts to link E-V13 individuals from three regions - Balkans (specifically high E-V13 concentration areas such as Kosovo & Macedonia) - England - German/Swiss border area (Hegau, Thurgau) The project attmepts to collect genetic evidence, that all three regions are linked by means of Roman auxiliary troup movements between 15 AD and 260 AD. The hypothesis is based on the fact that Roman legions systematically recruited Balkan populations for expeditions into Western Europe. Some hard archeological hard facts suggest that after 250 AD up to 50% of all Roman auxiliary troups were from the Balkans.
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    thx loki for this information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    http://www.familytreedna.com/group-j...px?Group=E-V13

    This project attempts to link E-V13 individuals from three regions - Balkans (specifically high E-V13 concentration areas such as Kosovo & Macedonia) - England - German/Swiss border area (Hegau, Thurgau) The project attmepts to collect genetic evidence, that all three regions are linked by means of Roman auxiliary troup movements between 15 AD and 260 AD. The hypothesis is based on the fact that Roman legions systematically recruited Balkan populations for expeditions into Western Europe. Some hard archeological hard facts suggest that after 250 AD up to 50% of all Roman auxiliary troups were from the Balkans.
    Indeed that Hypothesis is very likely.

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    This tells something.

    Isn't surprising tbh, since many Roman soldiers either were Illyrian or Thracian origin, same could be said about Emperors.

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    British are long lost Albanians?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior View Post


    This tells something.

    Isn't surprising tbh, since many Roman soldiers either were Illyrian or Thracian origin, same could be said about Emperors.

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    E-V13 is very ancient in Europe, an association with Romans is a very weak way of accounting for its presence in the British Isles.
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    The further research on EV-13 subclades is necessary to prove some hypothetical links. Because the highest frequency somewhere means nothing to me...
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020>YP1033*
    R1b-U152>L2>DF103>S14469
    It's still not an end.
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