Oracle-4 on Gedmatch

**Tarja** · 12-11-2012, 02:20 AM

Dodecad World9-Ancestors Oracle

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic @ 1.395
2 Dutch @ 1.460
3 German @ 1.741
4 Kent @ 2.287
5 Cornwall @ 2.333
6 CEU30 @ 2.406
7 British @ 2.678
8 British_Isles @ 3.605
9 Argyll @ 4.442
10 Irish @ 4.448
250 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.198
2 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Dutch @ 1.219
3 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Kent @ 1.282
4 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Cornwall @ 1.392
5 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.395
6 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 1.460
7 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% CEU30 @ 1.523
8 50% British +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.526
9 50% Dutch +50% Kent @ 1.530
10 50% German +50% Dutch @ 1.543
31375 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% Dutch +25% Kent @ 1.109
2 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% Mixed_Germanic +25% Kent @ 1.143
3 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% Kent @ 1.155
4 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% Dutch +25% Cornwall @ 1.169
5 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% Dutch @ 1.188
6 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.195
7 50% Dutch +25% Mixed_Germanic +25% Kent @ 1.195
8 50% German +25% Mixed_Germanic +25% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.198
9 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% German @ 1.198
10 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% Cornwall @ 1.202
714073 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch + Kent @ 1.109
2 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Kent @ 1.143
3 German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Kent @ 1.155
4 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch + Cornwall @ 1.169
5 German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch @ 1.188
6 German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.195
7 Mixed_Germanic + Dutch + Dutch + Kent @ 1.195
8 German + German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.198
9 German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Cornwall @ 1.202
10 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch + Dutch @ 1.219
11 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Cornwall @ 1.226
12 Mixed_Germanic + Dutch + Dutch + Cornwall @ 1.228
13 British + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch @ 1.241
14 Irish + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.243
15 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch @ 1.256
16 British + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.257
17 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + British_Isles @ 1.266
18 German + Mixed_Germanic + Dutch + Kent @ 1.268
19 Irish + German + German + French @ 1.280
20 Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Kent + Kent @ 1.282

**Graham** · 12-11-2012, 02:25 AM

Tarja the German or Dutch..

**Pallantides** · 12-11-2012, 02:27 AM

Dodecad World9

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lithuanian @ 3.417
2 Lithuanians @ 3.619
3 Swedish @ 3.621
4 Norwegian @ 4.287
5 Belorussian @ 6.096
6 Polish @ 7.255
7 FIN30 @ 7.379
8 Finnish @ 7.473
9 Russian_B @ 8.319
10 Orkney @ 8.324
250 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +50% Lithuanians @ 1.393
2 50% Norwegian +50% Lithuanian @ 1.516
3 50% Swedish +50% Lithuanians @ 1.521
4 50% Swedish +50% Lithuanian @ 1.637
5 50% Lithuanian +50% Belorussian @ 3.211
6 50% Belorussian +50% Lithuanians @ 3.285
7 50% Lithuanians +50% Orkney @ 3.295
8 50% Polish +50% Lithuanian @ 3.398
9 50% Lithuanian +50% Orkney @ 3.411
10 50% Lithuanian +50% Lithuanian @ 3.417
31375 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Lithuanians +25% Lithuanians @ 1.393
2 50% Lithuanians +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 1.393
3 50% Lithuanians +25% Swedish +25% Norwegian @ 1.424
4 50% Norwegian +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanians @ 1.435
5 50% Norwegian +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian @ 1.516
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 1.516
7 50% Swedish +25% Lithuanians +25% Lithuanians @ 1.521
8 50% Lithuanians +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 1.521
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Swedish +25% Norwegian @ 1.546
10 50% Swedish +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanians @ 1.561
188161 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Norwegian + Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.393
2 Swedish + Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.424
3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.435
4 Swedish + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.466
5 Norwegian + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.516
6 Swedish + Swedish + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.521
7 Swedish + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.546
8 Swedish + Swedish + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.561
9 Swedish + Swedish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.637
10 Finnish + Lithuanians + Lithuanians + Orkney @ 1.672
11 Finnish + Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.736
12 Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians + FIN30 @ 1.769
13 Finnish + Lithuanian + Lithuanians + Orkney @ 1.769
14 Lithuanians + Lithuanians + FIN30 + Orkney @ 1.776
15 Finnish + Orcadian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.781
16 Finnish + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.801
17 Irish + Finnish + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.805
18 Finnish + British_Isles + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.811
19 Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians + FIN30 @ 1.833
20 Finnish + Lithuanian + Orcadian + Lithuanians @ 1.868

3312336 iterations.

**Tarja** · 12-11-2012, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Graham

Tarja the German or Dutch..

Strange results to get, considering yours are so reasonable.

**Graham** · 12-11-2012, 02:34 AM

I'm the most British Scottish Separatist in the land.

**Atlantic Islander** · 12-11-2012, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Graham

What would you say are your most accurate results, you think?

Jtest, Eutest, Dodecad K12b, World9, and K7b . Too bad there isn't an oracle 4 calculator for Eurogenes k12, that one might be the most accurate for me.

**Jackson** · 12-11-2012, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Pallantides

Dodecad World9

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lithuanian @ 3.417
2 Lithuanians @ 3.619
3 Swedish @ 3.621
4 Norwegian @ 4.287
5 Belorussian @ 6.096
6 Polish @ 7.255
7 FIN30 @ 7.379
8 Finnish @ 7.473
9 Russian_B @ 8.319
10 Orkney @ 8.324
250 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +50% Lithuanians @ 1.393
2 50% Norwegian +50% Lithuanian @ 1.516
3 50% Swedish +50% Lithuanians @ 1.521
4 50% Swedish +50% Lithuanian @ 1.637
5 50% Lithuanian +50% Belorussian @ 3.211
6 50% Belorussian +50% Lithuanians @ 3.285
7 50% Lithuanians +50% Orkney @ 3.295
8 50% Polish +50% Lithuanian @ 3.398
9 50% Lithuanian +50% Orkney @ 3.411
10 50% Lithuanian +50% Lithuanian @ 3.417
31375 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Lithuanians +25% Lithuanians @ 1.393
2 50% Lithuanians +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 1.393
3 50% Lithuanians +25% Swedish +25% Norwegian @ 1.424
4 50% Norwegian +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanians @ 1.435
5 50% Norwegian +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian @ 1.516
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 1.516
7 50% Swedish +25% Lithuanians +25% Lithuanians @ 1.521
8 50% Lithuanians +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 1.521
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Swedish +25% Norwegian @ 1.546
10 50% Swedish +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanians @ 1.561
188161 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Norwegian + Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.393
2 Swedish + Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.424
3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.435
4 Swedish + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.466
5 Norwegian + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.516
6 Swedish + Swedish + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.521
7 Swedish + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.546
8 Swedish + Swedish + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.561
9 Swedish + Swedish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.637
10 Finnish + Lithuanians + Lithuanians + Orkney @ 1.672
11 Finnish + Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.736
12 Norwegian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians + FIN30 @ 1.769
13 Finnish + Lithuanian + Lithuanians + Orkney @ 1.769
14 Lithuanians + Lithuanians + FIN30 + Orkney @ 1.776
15 Finnish + Orcadian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.781
16 Finnish + Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 1.801
17 Irish + Finnish + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.805
18 Finnish + British_Isles + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 1.811
19 Norwegian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians + FIN30 @ 1.833
20 Finnish + Lithuanian + Orcadian + Lithuanians @ 1.868

3312336 iterations.

Originally Posted by plastictuga

Jtest, Eutest, Dodecad K12b, World9, and K7b . Too bad there isn't an oracle 4 calculator for Eurogenes k12, that one might be the most accurate for me.

Yeah K=12 is one of my old favourites, i guess it wouldn't be too dissimilar from EUtest (many of the components are almost the same).

**Annihilus** · 12-12-2012, 07:03 PM

World9

Caucasus_Gedrosia 35.32%
Atlantic_Baltic 32.95%
Southern 27.51%
Siberian 2.42%
East_Asian 1.05%
South_Asian 0.41%
Australasian 0.29%

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 13.263
2 Turkish @ 13.711
3 S_Italian @ 14.531
4 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 14.660
5 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 14.765
6 Ashkenazi @ 15.603
7 Sicilian @ 15.950
8 Turks @ 17.503
9 Balkars @ 18.673
10 C_Italian @ 18.729

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% C_Italian +50% Adygei @ 1.696
2 50% C_Italian +50% Balkars @ 2.303
3 50% North_Italian +50% Abhkasians @ 2.438
4 50% C_Italian +50% North_Ossetians @ 2.541
5 50% C_Italian +50% Chechens @ 2.622
6 50% C_Italian +50% Kumyks @ 2.627
7 50% N_Italian +50% Abhkasians @ 2.671
8 50% O_Italian +50% North_Ossetians @ 2.799
9 50% O_Italian +50% Adygei @ 2.806
10 50% Bulgarian +50% Armenians @ 2.971

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% Greek +25% Mordovians @ 1.103
2 50% Armenians +25% Greek +25% Mordovians @ 1.225
3 50% Armenians +25% Greek +25% Russian @ 1.270
4 50% Armenians +25% Russian +25% Cypriots @ 1.326
5 50% Armenians +25% Russian +25% Cypriots @ 1.383
6 50% Armenian +25% Greek +25% Russian @ 1.452
7 50% Armenians +25% Russian +25% Greek @ 1.471
8 50% TSI30 +25% Georgians +25% North_Ossetians @ 1.472
9 50% Armenians +25% French_Basque +25% Balkars @ 1.512
10 50% Armenians +25% Cypriots +25% Russian_B @ 1.525

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Armenian + Greek + Mordovians @ 1.103
2 Armenian + Greek + Mordovians + Armenians @ 1.129
3 Russian + Greek + Georgians + Iraq_Jews @ 1.176
4 Russian + Assyrian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Georgians @ 1.216
5 Greek + Mordovians + Armenians + Armenians @ 1.225
6 Russian + Assyrian + Sicilian + Georgians @ 1.255
7 Russian + Assyrian + S_Italian + Georgians @ 1.257
8 Greek + Russian + Armenians + Armenians @ 1.270
9 Greek + Russian + Georgians + Iraq_Jews @ 1.292
10 Ashkenazi + Russian + Assyrian + Georgians @ 1.296
11 Russian + Armenians + Armenians + Cypriots @ 1.326
12 Armenian + Greek + Russian + Armenians @ 1.333
13 Russian + Assyrian + Ashkenazy_Jews + Georgians @ 1.344
14 Georgians + Sephardic_Jews + FIN30 + Armenians @ 1.345
15 Armenian + Finnish + Sephardic_Jews + Abhkasians @ 1.345
16 S_Italian + Armenians + Mordovians + Armenians @ 1.346
17 Armenian + Georgians + Sephardic_Jews + FIN30 @ 1.358
18 Finnish + Georgians + Sephardic_Jews + Armenians @ 1.362
19 C_Italian + Georgians + Iraq_Jews + Mordovians @ 1.363
20 S_Italian_Sicilian + Georgia_Jews + Georgians + Mordovians @ 1.365

Mordovians, interesting, could explain the Russians and Poles in my AF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordvins

**Graham** · 12-12-2012, 07:09 PM

Wouldn't take the countries named quite literally, but draw a map of the places..& put yourself between them.

That's what I think anyway. So it'd place you somewhere North East of Turkey..

**Mark** · 12-16-2012, 12:33 AM

EUtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AJ @ 4.141
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.003
3 GR @ 10.403
4 Tuscan @ 17.018
5 North_Italian @ 20.621
6 RO @ 22.431
7 TR @ 24.400
8 Serbian @ 24.500
9 IQ @ 24.579
10 Samaritan @ 26.634
78 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +50% AJ @ 4.141
2 50% FR +50% Samaritan @ 5.029
3 50% AJ +50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.246
4 50% AT +50% Samaritan @ 5.291
5 50% North_Italian +50% Samaritan @ 5.586
6 50% PT +50% Samaritan @ 5.872
7 50% IQ +50% North_Italian @ 6.093
8 50% ES +50% Samaritan @ 6.203
9 50% AJ +50% GR @ 6.375
10 50% Samaritan +50% Serbian @ 6.570
3081 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Samaritan +25% ES +25% HU @ 2.001
2 50% Samaritan +25% ES +25% Serbian @ 2.390
3 50% Samaritan +25% ES +25% RO @ 2.438
4 50% Samaritan +25% FR +25% RO @ 2.471
5 50% Samaritan +25% HU +25% PT @ 2.505
6 50% Samaritan +25% AT +25% ES @ 2.761
7 50% Samaritan +25% AT +25% North_Italian @ 2.772
8 50% Samaritan +25% PT +25% RO @ 2.971
9 50% Samaritan +25% AT +25% PT @ 2.977
10 50% Samaritan +25% PT +25% Serbian @ 3.069
107978 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 ES + HU + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.001
2 ES + Samaritan + Samaritan + Serbian @ 2.390
3 ES + RO + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.438
4 FR + RO + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.471
5 HU + PT + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.505
6 AT + ES + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.761
7 AT + North_Italian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.772
8 PT + RO + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.971
9 ES + IQ + RO + Samaritan @ 2.976
10 AT + PT + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 2.977
11 PT + Samaritan + Samaritan + Serbian @ 3.069
12 FR + Samaritan + Samaritan + Serbian @ 3.110
13 HU + North_Italian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 3.218
14 AJ + AJ + ES + Samaritan @ 3.240
15 AJ + AJ + PT + Samaritan @ 3.395
16 FR + HU + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 3.477
17 IQ + PT + RO + Samaritan @ 3.489
18 French_Basque + Samaritan + Samaritan + Serbian @ 3.496
19 ES + IQ + Samaritan + Serbian @ 3.504
20 AJ + AJ + North_Italian + Samaritan @ 3.522