Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Jackson]

Will they show up with the rest of your family on my share list?

Always like to use compare genes with everyone.

They should do, if not give me a shout and i'll send you another invite, or i'll work out a way of changing our sharing options . Their RF/AF/ancestry composition should be ready in a day or two so that should be interesting - Although i will have to place them in my family tree to get the best results it seems.

[PeacefulCaribbeanDutch]

Siberians are the father of all scandinavian people

[Jackson]

Here's the EUtest results for my Dad's phased data files, and they are actually very similar (but not identical) to their actual results - Variations on a theme really, all the key components are there in roughly the right amounts. Should give me some more insight on to each side of the ancestry. In fact the paternal one is probably what i'd expect my great-grandfather to be like, or quite similar, and my maternal phased one is very similar to the original. Although these phased files are within the sort of variation i'd expect for what a person of a given ancestry could be - So the phased file could be like a brother or sister of the actual person theoretically (even though they are not) who inherited the same things but in slightly different amounts.

Paternal phased data file (aka 'Alternative Grandfather') - (Seems i finally found someone who beats Graham on North Central Euro, although they aren't even real , but with the same ancestry as my grandfather):

1) NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.75
2) ATLANTIC 23.06
3) SOUTH_BALTIC 14.26
4) WEST_MED 10.81
5) EAST_EURO 10
6) WEST_ASIAN 5.08
7) MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.86
8) SOUTH_ASIAN 1.16
9) EAST_MED 1.02

1) English 5.91
2) DK 6.05
3) NL 6.13
4) NO 6.41
5) South_&_Central_Swedish 6.75
6) West_&_Central_German 6.96
7) Orcadian 7.96
8) Cornish 8.63
9) IE 8.71
10) Scottish 9.94

1) 59.1% English + 40.9% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.99
2) 56.8% English + 43.2% NO @ 5.13
3) 54.7% NL + 45.3% NO @ 5.48
4) 59% NL + 41% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.48
5) 54.3% English + 45.7% DK @ 5.53
6) 83.7% English + 16.3% North_Swedish @ 5.58
7) 89.7% NO + 10.3% Tuscan @ 5.58
8) 86.5% NO + 13.5% PT @ 5.59
9) 80.7% NO + 19.3% FR @ 5.6
10) 77.7% South_&_Central_Swedish + 22.3% FR @ 5.63

Maternal phased data file (aka 'Alternative Grandmother') - (Turns out very similar to her actual results, but with slightly more East Mediterranean and slightly less West Asian, very interesting - Picks up on the same things as the original but in different amounts):

1) NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.97
2) ATLANTIC 27.49
3) WEST_MED 13.01
4) SOUTH_BALTIC 12.43
5) EAST_EURO 10.51
6) EAST_MED 5.02
7) WEST_ASIAN 1.11
8) SOUTH_ASIAN 0.36
9) WEST_AFRICAN 0.09

1) English 2.83
2) Cornish 4.21
3) NL 4.29
4) West_&_Central_German 5.6
5) DK 5.72
6) Orcadian 5.93
7) IE 6.74
8) Scottish 7.55
9) NO 8.16
10) South_&_Central_Swedish 9.03

1) 94.6% English + 5.4% French_Basque @ 2.51
2) 97.4% English + 2.6% Sardinian @ 2.52
3) 93.1% English + 6.9% ES @ 2.53
4) 93.6% English + 6.4% PT @ 2.58
5) 89.5% English + 10.5% FR @ 2.6
6) 98.9% English + 1.1% Moroccan @ 2.79
7) 97.9% English + 2.1% North_Italian @ 2.8
8) 87.8% English + 12.2% Cornish @ 2.8
9) 99.3% English + 0.7% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.81
10) 98.7% English + 1.3% Tuscan @ 2.81

[Graham]

Bastard!!

Knocked off my perch.

[Jackson]

Bastard!!

Knocked off my perch.

Haha, well that profile isn't technically a person - So you are still up there .

[Jackson]

Hmm i found this on the EUtest Oracle 4 interesting, hadn't noticed it before now. According to documentation my Grandfather is 1/4 Irish 3/4 English, and on the 4 ancestors oracle i noticed Ireland is one of a number of possible combinations - Ie 50% English, 25% English and 25% Swedish. Although this is a number of possibilities (some of which are more likely) that include:

50% English + 25% Swedish + 25% Orcadian
50% English + 25% Swedish + 25% English
50% English + 25% Swedish + 25% Dutch
50% English + 25% Swedish + 25% Scottish

And the possibilities usually come out 75% English - But it's interesting to speculate that (i assume) his Irish ancestry probably wasn't typical, rather more ambiguous British Isles, but if it is accurate in that sense that may make his father 50% Swedish 50% English or there-abouts - Which is interesting because pushing back that line beyond his father's generation is proving difficult. Possibly isn't the case (as i have now idea how an errant Swede would end up in Hertfordshire), but it's an interesting possibility to consider. Anyway it seems to prefer Swedish above all else, for whatever reasons.

Although the phased data file comes out basically 50% English 50% Swedish, which although it's along the same lines, may add a bit of ambiguity. I imagine it's probably due to the lack of 'Western Euro' in this one. It's interesting though, as he does definitely take after his mother's side more in looks and character, that the discrepancy between the two files may be explained by him inheriting relatively more from her, although i will never know this - Perhaps unless i test his sister (who is still alive also).

[Damião de Góis]

Mine basically just shows combinations of my top populations:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 PT @ 4.134
2 ES @ 5.224
3 North_Italian @ 8.362
4 FR @ 8.806
5 Tuscan @ 14.625
6 AT @ 17.347
7 Cornish @ 18.816
8 West_&_Central_German @ 19.078
9 NL @ 19.577
10 RO @ 19.854

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ES +50% North_Italian @ 3.775
2 50% PT +50% PT @ 4.134
3 50% North_Italian +50% PT @ 4.166
4 50% ES +50% PT @ 4.307
5 50% FR +50% North_Italian @ 4.595
6 50% FR +50% PT @ 5.093
7 50% ES +50% ES @ 5.224
8 50% ES +50% FR @ 5.542
9 50% FR +50% Tuscan @ 6.489
10 50% ES +50% Tuscan @ 6.820

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% PT +25% FR +25% North_Italian @ 2.914
2 50% ES +25% FR +25% North_Italian @ 3.054
3 50% PT +25% ES +25% North_Italian @ 3.060
4 50% ES +25% North_Italian +25% PT @ 3.141
5 50% PT +25% North_Italian +25% PT @ 3.269
6 50% ES +25% ES +25% North_Italian @ 3.491
7 50% ES +25% ES +25% RO @ 3.499
8 50% North_Italian +25% ES +25% FR @ 3.501
9 50% ES +25% FR +25% Tuscan @ 3.565
10 50% ES +25% PT +25% RO @ 3.571

[Damião de Góis]

It's good that they warn that this feature is still under development:

Best Population Fit (Pct. Option 1):

1 ES 70.73%
2 North_Italian 5.92%
3 English 5.33%
4 GE 4.73%
5 LIT 4.61%
6 Sardinian 4.59%
7 Maasai 2.47%
8 FR 0.79%
9 PT 0.66%
10 Tuscan 0.17%

[Jackson]

It's good that they warn that this feature is still under development:

Best Population Fit (Pct. Option 1):

1 ES 70.73%
2 North_Italian 5.92%
3 English 5.33%
4 GE 4.73%
5 LIT 4.61%
6 Sardinian 4.59%
7 Maasai 2.47%
8 FR 0.79%
9 PT 0.66%
10 Tuscan 0.17%

Lol yeah definitely. I suppose even though Spanish and Portuguese are fairly similar, getting only 0.66% Portuguese is insane! Well yeah i'm waiting for that message to go away before i post my results i think. Although they seem to be similar to the oracle and 4 ancestors oracle. Five times more Masai than Portuguese eh?

[Damião de Góis]

Lol yeah definitely. I suppose even though Spanish and Portuguese are fairly similar, getting only 0.66% Portuguese is insane! Well yeah i'm waiting for that message to go away before i post my results i think. Although they seem to be similar to the oracle and 4 ancestors oracle. Five times more Masai than Portuguese eh?

That's true. Although my surnames hardly exist in Spain. it would be like an irish person with only irish surnames scoring english instead of irish, to make an analogy closer to you.

Anyway, Oracle-4 seems stable and i don't see how Oracle-X is supposed to differ.