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    That's more like it

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    NO2 kept it above 4cm & took out the pointless Utahn Mormans.

    8.4235 -- Norwegian NO13
    6.9898 -- Orcadian HG00115
    6.9483 -- Orcadian HGDP00797
    5.3049 -- Norwegian NO8
    5.1072 -- Belgian BE2
    5.0955 -- Irish IE3
    5.0804 -- Norwegian NO1
    5.0770 -- Vologda_Russian HGDP00895
    5.0383 -- Dutch NL6
    4.9134 -- NOUK1 NOUK1
    4.7904 -- Ukrainian UA6
    4.7581 -- Swedish SE29
    4.7392 -- Orcadian HG00113
    4.6423 -- NOUK1 NOUK1
    4.5488 -- Swedish SE7
    4.4668 -- Canadian CA1
    4.4599 -- Swedish SE5
    4.2597 -- East_Greenland GSM558770
    4.2262 -- Swedish SE21
    4.1768 -- British UK38
    4.1601 -- Italian IT26
    4.1553 -- Russian RU24
    4.0742 -- Irish IE16

    I see both Olavsson and evon among my matches.

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    Here is my 4cM+ Matches in Order:

    9.6335 - Cornish,HG0023
    9.2504 - Utah_Mormon,NA12873
    7.5534 - Swedish,SE10
    6.0951 - Romanian,GSM536598
    5.5794 - British,UK24
    5.2068 - Utah_Mormon,NA12348
    5.1811 - Utah_Mormon,NA11830
    4.9093 - Utah_Mormon,NA12399
    4.9084 - Estonian,EE1
    4.7184 - British,UK21
    4.6885 - Irish,IE16
    4.4283 - Bedouin,HGDP00701
    4.3996 - Utah_Mormon,NA11931
    4.3183 - Norwegian,NO11
    4.275 - Spanish,ES21
    4.1434 - Russian,RU48
    4.0645 - Finnish,FI6
    4.0524 - Irish,IE7
    4.0387 - British,UK3

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    Anni your 4-6cM matches as requested:

    Turkish,TR15,Turkish,TR4 6.8437
    Turkish,TR4,White_American,US57 5.4537
    Bulgarian,Bulgaria1Y,Turkish,TR4 5.4234
    Turkish,TR4,Turkish,TR6 4.4938
    Turkish,TR13,Turkish,TR4 4.8521
    Turkish,TR4,Ukrainian,UkrLv228Y 4.8203
    Kurdish,Kurd2,Turkish,TR4 4.6235
    Lithuanian,GSM536643,Turkish,TR4 4.5955
    Armenian,GSM536831,Turkish,TR4 4.225
    Estonian,EE1,Turkish,TR4 4.0938
    Russian,RU7,Turkish,TR4 4.0912
    Balochi,HGDP00090,Turkish,TR4 4.0397

    PS: people i wount make more requests today as i want to make some more maps and they take a long time...
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    Hungarians, Looking at it i think i should not have included Chuvash, as i saw that they had allot of matches with peoples of that area in general (Mordvins) and its regional in nature, and not connected to these other far flung matches.
    I found it interesting that they had so many matches with the Aleut peoples of Kamchatka and Alaska, i think the high number of Nogay might be regional, but it could also be something else, the others are up for debate i guess, but nothing out of the ordinary for eastern europeans with the exception of the central Chinese Tu match and also the lone Kazahk and Uzbek matches look suspicious, i will look at one of the bordering populations next to compare them with Hungarians..as like this its easy to draw the false conclusions..


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    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    Ok, so Eurogenes chief Polako gave me the go ahead to release the IBD dataset i had posted some maps from in this thread.

    It took some time to find the appropriate links so as to make it easy for most people, this has not been officially released by eurogenes last i checked, but it was a big chatter topic on AFB when it was released in late 2012.

    IBD (see here for info) is shared segments, so basically the larger the segment the better the chances are that its real and that its something worth noting, the strength of the segment can also been seen in the numbers listed after the letter E.

    Here is the data in spreadsheet format (Open office ect), matches for every Eurogenes member at 1 cM, 2 cM, 3 cM, 4 cM, and 5 cM thresholds:

    bigfile.

    Instructions by Quasimodem (His TA nickname);




    Here are the rough uncut data:

    Chromosome 1-5.

    Chromosome 6-11.

    Chromosome 12-22.

    Here are my maps again (For Norwegians with matches in Southern Europe, East/North and south Asia. Turkish matches in Europe and East, North and south Asia) lowest threshold 4cM:










    Enjoy those of you who missed this run will make a link to this post in the other thread too..
    I am TR23 and I have got some cousins genetically there just like by 23andme or what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    East Alpine
    Quote Originally Posted by exceeder View Post
    Either way, Alpino-East Meditteranid is predominant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    Alpine with minor East Med. I would agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
    You are an East Alpinid, with a liberal splish splash of Turkic blood
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    Pyknomorphic Eastern Alpine with Turanid influence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su View Post
    I am TR23 and I have got some cousins genetically there just like by 23andme or what?
    Yes, essentially its like Relative finder cousins or Ancestry finder cousins, but the threshold here goes down to 4cM and up, so the smallest matches is not really something you write home about as they could be veeeeeeeeeery old (pre-historic), so best stick to the largest matches for certainty..
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    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    Yes, essentially its like Relative finder cousins or Ancestry finder cousins, but the threshold here goes down to 4cM and up, so the smallest matches is not really something you write home about as they could be veeeeeeeeeery old (pre-historic), so best stick to the largest matches for certainty..
    Yeah, I think I have got like 5 matches but they are all in the same size, I guess I better dont stick to any of them
    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    East Alpine
    Quote Originally Posted by exceeder View Post
    Either way, Alpino-East Meditteranid is predominant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    Alpine with minor East Med. I would agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
    You are an East Alpinid, with a liberal splish splash of Turkic blood
    Quote Originally Posted by Gospodine View Post
    Pyknomorphic Eastern Alpine with Turanid influence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su View Post
    I am TR23 and I have got some cousins genetically there just like by 23andme or what?
    Me too. I have Swedish, Hungarian and German cousins and my spots are on the same place. I am TR21, btw.
    Balkan Anatolian Turkic calculator:

    11.04% Balkans
    83.23% Anatolia
    5.73% Turkic

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepulp View Post
    Me too. I have Swedish, Hungarian and German cousins and my spots are on the same place. I am TR21, btw.
    All my 5 spots are small so basically it's totally noise, and your 2 spots are also small same thing noise.

    Just your 1 Hungarian spot is big, I think you should hung on that based on evons statement, I personally have got no clue about the map
    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    East Alpine
    Quote Originally Posted by exceeder View Post
    Either way, Alpino-East Meditteranid is predominant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    Alpine with minor East Med. I would agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
    You are an East Alpinid, with a liberal splish splash of Turkic blood
    Quote Originally Posted by Gospodine View Post
    Pyknomorphic Eastern Alpine with Turanid influence

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    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    Hungarians:
    Here is Romanians for comparison, note that the Romanian sample is much smaller then the Hungarian one as is easy to note from the smaller pool of dots on the Volga.




    The big surprise as with Hungarians was the massive build-up among Aleut and other peoples in far eastern Russia and Alaska, the second weird thing was the lack of Roma (indian) matches among the Romanian sample versus the Hungarian's, if South Asian matches in general is an indication of Roma ancestry, it seems that Romanians have been very good at not mixing with the massive local Roma population there, tomorrow or later i will look at Bulgarians and Ukrainians if i find the time...
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