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i've yet to meet one of those supposed "many" atheists
not an atheist
R.I.P Joan Rivers
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I see evil doesn't matter with religion.
If one is evilish he will twist even the most beautiful of the credoes and the nicest of all religion to do evil.
Just look what did and still do, who more who less, Christiand and Muslims, who in abstract love to portray themselves as the good novel seekers.
We check what one do, not what he preach.
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I'm not claiming that religion has answers to everything. One can be atheist and have inteligent and worthy arguments for his/her stand. But Dawkins is far from having that. Natural science with its methods cannot understand and even think about everything and therefore it lacks instruments to argue with religion. It is completly valid to use scientific facts and theories as part of argumentation.
Problem is that Dawkins tought operates with very strange mix of scientific facts and theories with what we can call political theology. Dawkins never question human dignity, human rights, which is irrational and religious (in a broader sense of word of course) to very same extent than religion. Nobody can ever proove with science that killing wild boar it is not the same as killing of human being. Dawkins also does not ever think about religion in a philosophical terms and he never puts science to the critique, which is essential (Nietzsche could help here ). I consider here therefore as invalid to criticise anything. He is a pop star and hatemonger from the left. Many of atheist philosophers, thinkers and serrious people are something completly different and their thought is interesting for me.
Thirdly, I don't understand this modern obsession with organised religion. Those alternative religions, faith are only succesfull because one can rework their teaching according to the personal conviction or to a fascion of time.
Present Western "civilization" awaits a substantial upheaval (rivolgimento), without which it is destined, sooner or later, to smash its own head. It has carried out the most complete perversion of the rational order of things. Reign of matter, gold, machines, numbers. -Julius Evola.
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i dont care if there is a god or not, i only care about this world
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For me the argument from first cause is convincing. A system like our universe needs a external cause for exist and if this cause isn't something like god so it needs another cause, the reasoning continues until the first cause that exist for itself, that thing only can be described as a god. But I don't believe in something like christianity, and the neo-atheism is nothing more than another stupid political moviment that have faith in humanism.
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