Is West Asian a European component?

**wvwvw** · 01-31-2013, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Alex Delarge

Wrong? Georgians just happen to have the highest value, but only marginally. I'm not sure if i would consider that a peak. The Kalash or Brahui from Pakistan for example have 4% less.

As for georgians looking european i wouldn't know, never been there and i'm not familiar with georgians or azeris, armenians, etc. Also they score around 25-27% Mediterranean by the way, so i don't think it's negligable.

Georgians score 0 Med and negligible amount of Northern European:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...owsperpage=250

Pathans score 44% Gedrosia and only 1.1 Atlantic Med.

Comparing Georgians to Pakistanis is like comparing the French to North Africans who both share the Mediterranean component.

**Energia** · 01-31-2013, 11:17 PM

Saying West Asian component is non Euro therefore labelling any Greek, Italian or wichever European who has it as foreigner, is like saying a Turk who's born on the European side of Istanbul isn't a real Turkish...

Europe doesn't end on Gibraltar and Istanbul, these are mere geographical conventional terms, in reality you see clines and clines...
otherwise tell me why I should consider West Asian alien but haplogroup N European?while it's much more spread in Siberia than Europe?

How about call it South East Europe component instead of West Asian?

**Damião de Góis** · 01-31-2013, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Raine

Georgians score 0 Med and negligible amount of Northern European:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...owsperpage=250

Pathans score 44% Gedrosia and only 1.1 Atlantic Med.

Comparing Georgians to Pakistanis is like comparing the French to North Africans who both share the Mediterranean component.

You missed the part of my first post where i said "On that run". And on that run Georgians have around 30% mediterranean. We are talking about different runs, so it makes the discussion useless. K12b doesn't even have components called "Mediterranean" or "West Asian".

Comparing Georgians with some Pakistani populations makes total sense in this context, since both have 55-60% West Asian, "on that run". And we are discussing where this component is high, aren't we?

**Pallantides** · 01-31-2013, 11:23 PM

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**wvwvw** · 01-31-2013, 11:25 PM

Do you have the spreadsheet of "that run" to check it out myself?

**Damião de Góis** · 01-31-2013, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Raine

Do you have the spreadsheet of "that run" to check it out myself?

It's a few pages back, posted by orangepulp.

**Azalea** · 02-02-2013, 07:15 AM

Is the West Asian component South/Central Asian because the populations there have a high % of it too, more so than Europeans?

No.

The West Asian component peaks in West Asia and is therefore West Asian.

**~~Aquafina~~** · 02-02-2013, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Hess

According to the first graph, W/SW Asian admixture seems to predominate (at or over 50%) among some Greeks.

Holy shit. Greeks have over 50%?

**Azalea** · 02-02-2013, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Energia

How about call it South East Europe component instead of West Asian?

West Asia is not a part of South East Europe and the populations with the highest % of West Asian admix live in the Northern parts of West Asia, which is definitely not Southeast Europe. It would make no sence what so ever to call this component South East European. If anything, it would make more sence to call it the 'South/Central Asian' component as South/Central Asians have a higher % of it than certain South European countries.

Does that make sence to you?

**~~Prince Carlo~~** · 02-02-2013, 07:55 AM

Asian and European are only geographical terms. I only know that the West Asian component is the closest one to the Northern European one and peaks among rather depigmented people like Georgians and Abkhazians.