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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    What is European to begin with?
    Apparently only Mesolithic-Pitted Ware culture aDNA.

    Anything prior to that like the Aurignacian culture is irrelevenat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepulp View Post
    Besides, it says Greeks have common roots with people of Asia Minor which basically means you have Near Eastern genes.
    It doesn't says that.

    "No need to repeat that these prices ​​are aspects of relations between the Greeks and other populations and not necessarily mean that the Greeks are a mixture of Basque, Sardinians, West Asiats, etc. Just demonstrate that there are eg greater common roots with the peoples of Asia Minor than with the Basques or with Sardinians and other Mediterranean peoples than with those of the Baltic."

    http://greekgenetics.blogspot.gr/

    It says that we are not a mixture of West Asiats and that we just have, partly, common roots(=same place origin) with the peoples of Asia Minor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepulp View Post

    Point is West Asian is not European.
    Why is Med component native European?



    Out European

    Turks.................Mediterranean.....26,7%
    Sephardic Jews....Mediterranean....40,2%
    Ashkenazy Jews...Mediterranean....37,5%
    Egyptians............Mediterranean....24,3%
    Algerian..............Mediterranean....37,6%
    Morroccans.........Mediterranean....39,3%
    Morocco Jews......Mediterranean....40,8%

    Into Europe

    North Italian........Mediterranean....46,6%
    French................Mediterranean....40,5%
    Mixed Germanic....Mediterranean....33,4%
    German...............Mediterranean....29,7%
    Austrian..............Mediterranean....30,6%
    Polish.................Mediterranean.....20,1%
    Irish...................Mediterranean.....33,7%
    British.................Mediterranean....34,8%
    English................Mediterranean.....35,8%
    British isles..........Mediterranean.....34,8%
    Dutch.................Mediterranean.....33,3%
    Swedish..............Mediterranean.....26,1%
    Norwegian...........Mediterranean.....28,9%

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...E&pli=1#gid=24

    Mediterranean genes extends from Turkey, Israel and north Africa up to Skandinavia, so it seems, according to your logic, that central and north Europe is full of Turkic, Israelitic & African, non-European, Mediterranean blood.
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    West Asia is in green.



    West Asian can be seen as a reference population with a number of different races associated with it. Could the reason Europeans score west Asian be the result of ancient tribes from Anatolia who migrated to Europe? Wasn't Anatolia (west asia) once inhabited by racially Europid people before the arrival of Turkic and Semitic tribes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    West Asia is in green.

    Nice map but it has some obvious problems. Why would ethno-geographic boundaries exactly follow modern political boundaries? For example, I would call West Turkestan part of central Asia ("inner" Asia if you prefer).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    West Asian can be seen as a reference population with a number of different races associated with it. Could the reason Europeans score west Asian be the result of ancient tribes from Anatolia who migrated to Europe? Wasn't Anatolia (west asia) once inhabited by racially Europid people before the arrival of Turkic and Semitic tribes?
    I dunno but it wasn't it generally regarded as being Greek for over a thousand years?

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    Genetic wise Caucasus/West Asian component is the closest or equal distant to north european than atlantic/med

    Globe13/K13 fst
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...tUE9kaUE#gid=3



    k12b fst
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...DcTZEYlE#gid=1

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    No absolutely not, if we were to consider turks, iranians, georgians as european and white, we should also start considering assyrians, arabs and pakistanis european.

    Even though, armenians seem to be very well integrated, and an interesting society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MfA_ View Post
    Genetic wise Caucasus/West Asian component is the closest or equal distant to north european than atlantic/med

    Globe13/K13 fst
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...tUE9kaUE#gid=3



    k12b fst
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...DcTZEYlE#gid=1
    I remember this being shown before, that North European is pretty close to West Asian. Interesting stuff.

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    What are the specific markers labeled as ''West Asian''?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roys View Post
    What are the specific markers labeled as ''West Asian''?
    Globe13; Caucasus+Gedrosia
    K12b; Caucasus

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