Who built the greatest European empires, Wogs or Crackers?

[Philo]

Discuss.

What if we don't want to? What are you going to do?

[lamb]

I think rather than taking pride in the achievements of a few ancestors you might be related to from 1,000 years ago..focus on your own achievements.

[Moghrob]

Most of those inventions were from southern euros

Alternating current electricity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

Car:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas-Joseph_Cugnot

Leonardo diVinci designed the first airplane

First ever computer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

Nuclear power and nuclear bombs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi

Radio, telephone, and wireless technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi

Telegraph and Fax machine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Caselli

And don't even get me started on the Renaissance and Italy...


Now lets see what Croats ever produced:

-Cheap labor
-Tonnes of strippers and sex slaves
-One uneducated retard (you)

wrong, wrong and wrong

first modern computer: Zuse (German),
electricity generation: farraday (Brit)
first car: Benz, German,
first documented flight: Lilienthal German,
nuclear fusion: Otto Hahn and Lise-Meitner (German) - Fermi based on that, together with an Hungarian, developed the first nuclear reactor, but that was in the US (a country vastly built by crackers),
the first regular use telegraph was developed by Gauss and Weber in Germany
everyone knows that the telephone was developed by bell




so the only thing we have is a nuclear reactor that an italian) - in a team - developed in the US (he received his physics education germany, btw), based on the german discovery of nuclear fusion

and wireless telegraphy/radio (although telegraphy was first successfully used by germans), which in italian (half italian half brit actually!) invented together with a german and based on the german discovery of radio waves (by hertz) in england:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ferdinand_Braun


on the other hand we have internet, jet engine, airplane, car, bicycle, helicopter, industrial revolution, nuclear fusion, motorcycle, motors, electric lights, telephone, television, electric power (farraday) etc as cracker inventions


and this is not about croats, get over it: you live in a cracker world, through and through

[somerled]

Also may I add that currently the most powerful empire or civilization is the United States of America and not the "Germanic" countries like people have been saying here. It has influence from many different European countries many of which would be considered "wog" according to you guys. Such as France, Spain, and Italy. I would say this is the most modern empire of the "New World". The United States has the world's largest military with 730 military bases in 130 countries around the world. It is also has the world's largest economy with a 15.7 million dollar GDP. That's around 22% GDP of the entire world! I can easily say that the influence of the U.S.A is far greater than any "cracker" or North European country. http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/world_economies_gdp/

Discuss.

You're really not supporting your case.
The USA is fundamentally an Anglo colony, its core cultural values and institutions are clearly British inspired, with minor pan-European influences. Look at the elite and influential figures in American history and they are inevitably Brits or other Germanics (or Northern Jews).

[Lemon Kush]

You're really not supporting your case.
The USA is fundamentally an Anglo colony, its core cultural values and institutions are clearly British inspired, with minor pan-European influences. Look at the elite and influential figures in American history and they are inevitably Brits or other Germanics (or Northern Jews).

Yes but you can't deny that the French had a huge role in the establishment of the U.S. They helped the Americans during the Revolutionary War to be liberated from the British and sold a huge piece of their land to the Americans for next to nothing. (Louisiana Purchase) Also the modern English we speak today in America has many French words borrowed from it. Many prominent people in American history were French as well. I know George Washington had Huguenot ancestors.

[Hess]

Western Civilization was founded in Greece; there is no way around it.

Even the word "Europe" is a Greek term.

[somerled]

Yes but you can't deny that the French had a huge role in the establishment of the U.S. They helped the Americans during the Revolutionary War to be liberated from the British and sold a huge piece of their land to the Americans for next to nothing. (Louisiana Purchase) Also the modern English we speak today in America has many French words borrowed from it. Many prominent people in American history were French as well. I know George Washington had Huguenot ancestors.

I can deny it, the French role in shaping the USA was not huge, it barely scratched the Anglo character of the USA and later German settlement was more influential.
The French assisting the Americans was the same strategy that virtually every other nation or tribe has practiced at some point (and probably many times) in their history. Nobody is an island and forming mutually beneficial and often opportunistic alliances was and is a common practice which very rarely changes the national character of the participants. The Scots were allied to the French against the English throughout the middle Ages (the auld alliance) and yet this doesn't somehow make Scotland fundamentally less Scottish or northern.
The French sold the land cheaply because it was largely useless to them, they didn’t have the resources to enforce their claim on it. The British and Americans had more of a presence in the area and the French were at the point of abandoning their Western hemisphere empire.
Modern English with its French influence originated in England but this doesn't make England any less Anglo or northern so I don’t know where you are going with this.
The USA is a northern European colony, any other claim is clutching at straws.

[Albion]

All economy's historians agreed that if England never existed the Industrial Revolution would have occurred nonetheless somewhere else in Europe, probably a bit later.*

*in theory.

Meanwhile, reality tells us that it began in England.

[Útrám]

The shape of the New World does support our case as well. Former Northern colonies which managed to preserve and expand their founding population are among the world most prosperous countries(US, Canada and Australia). On the other hand, most of Latin America has always belonged to the second world.

[Xárszászát]

*in theory.

Meanwhile, reality tells us that it began in England.

Never said it didn't.
It's a reality that all the Revolution was a process that had symptoms in all Europe.
I am currently doing a courses of Economic History, the main opinion is that.