Dodecad Ancestry Project

[Kazimiera]

Embrace your Assegai.

Now I have an excuse for wrinkles and an understanding why I am fascinated by the cat's footprints. lol

[Graham]

It's because it is pretty distinct from the European ones. The European subdivisions contain more speculation and inaccuracy due to small samples.

Yes, shared ancestral clusters mix together. It's like a battle between them. Whereas the African, sits up the hill, in a castle. Away from the mess.

[Loki]

Is this globe4 on gedmatch yet?

[Mazik]

Where does your SSA come from Kazi? Do you know if you maybe got an old SSA ancestor or something?

[Mark]

Is this globe4 on gedmatch yet?

No, I ran it with 'DIYdodecad' via 'R'.

[Graham]

Is this globe4 on gedmatch yet?

No, it was out a while ago for DIYDodecad..

Here's the file.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7JD...5yWlAyUEE/edit

[Loki]

Where does your SSA come from Kazi? Do you know if you maybe got an old SSA ancestor or something?

Sorry Kazi for me jumping in:

Mazik, white South Africans whose families have been in SA since before 1700, all consistently have such a level of admixture from colonial times. There were slaves at the Cape in those days - Africans (from elsewhere, not local), Khois, Malays, Indians. And the Indians and Khoi and Africans intermarried, eventually forming the Cape Coloured population. However, in those days sometimes slaves were set free and married Dutchmen. The original Dutch gene pool was very small, hence this admixture was thrown into the pool before it formed a "bottleneck" - and therefore this population bottleneck ensured that these admixtures were spread widely, in small quantities, across the populace.

[Kazimiera]

Where does your SSA come from Kazi? Do you know if you maybe got an old SSA ancestor or something?

Yes, I know where it comes from.

The one side would be definitely be a West African slave, probably brought via Angola. The other SSA is Khoisan.

[Kazimiera]

Loki is right. And at the time in the 1700's there were no, or very few Bantu's in the Cape. Those who were here were normally in transit from Angola via the Portuguese ships.

Loki and I both have SSA, but we compared and he has no West African, and my Khoisan score is higher. So we are both descended from slaves, but definitely different individuals.

[Loki]

Yes, I know where it comes from.

The one side would be definitely be a West African slave, probably brought via Angola. The other SSA is Khoisan.

Come to think of it, it is almost nonsensical to lump West African and Khoisan together. Genetically they're probably further from each other than any Europeans are from each other. There is great genetic diversity in Africa.